Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast!
IGNORED

My Swing (ayouden)

ayouden

By ayouden
in Member Swings

 Share
Note: This thread is 4887 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 55
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Beachcomber
Beachcomber

ayouden, your swing is looking better.  The head looks better to me. Here is a video that should help you...  Watch the models left shoulder turn (on the back swing).  Then - this is very impor

GaryH
GaryH

Possibly my last post on this, but a few videos to illustrate what i've been saying.  This guy on youtube has done some interesting videos on the backswing, and the different options for it. Th

nevrino Well Established Member

nevrino

Posted
Posted

I may not be the right person to answer this since I have troubles with it myself. Was just analyzing my own swing and can post that pic.

You see my right elbow is problably at the right spot, but my shaft is too horizontal and not vertical enough. You can see it easy on the hands and see what's necessary for me to do to get to grants position. To not rotate my hands so much I believe.


nevrino Well Established Member

nevrino

Posted
Posted
Originally Posted by ayouden

are you the right or the left?

Oh sorry i'm the guy at the left.


nevrino Well Established Member

nevrino

Posted
Posted

Well since i'm also a bit confused I think it's bad that I post so much here . Last video now gonna try this out myself tomorrow with the  hula hoop.


firstorlast Member

firstorlast

Posted
Posted
Originally Posted by nevrino

Just took a quick look but I can't see that you are coming over the top.

Here's some possible reasons why you could be slicing:

You raise your spine angle during downswing.

You flip the club after impact you're not maintaining flat left wrist.

What I think you need is more secondary axis tilt and more hip slide. Watch this movie. And try to get to that reversed C position at impact with extended arms into the finish.

i do the same thing!


ayouden Member

ayouden

Posted
  • Author
Posted

UPDATE:

All my shots I hit on the driving range today was a massive slice... Started straight and drifted right.


nevrino Well Established Member

nevrino

Posted
Posted

Now you come over the top, which is definitly causing that slice. You see on grant he gets his hands from his right shoulder and down, it goes a little out towards the ball but not much. In your case the hands go to much out from the body to the ball but not down so much, this causes the over the top move.


Beachcomber Super Member

Beachcomber

Posted
Posted

Ayouden, as nevrino pointed out... You are coming over the top - thus hitting the slice.  Try focusing on going back to the start of the swing... By going back to the mechanics of A1 (address) to A2 (club shaft parallel to the ground).  If you look at the mocked up photo, you are coming above the shaft line (at address).  This is part of your problem.

Try getting your right arm takeaway to be more 'back and in' and less 'back and up' as you currently have it from A1 to A2.  Meaning - don't bend the right elbow so much... Make sure you take that club back away on the inside more.  Remember to pull that left arm across your chest with the right arm - but start the back swing with your hands lower - and the right forearm taking the hands more inside.

.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

ayouden Member

ayouden

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Just had my lesson today with the Pro, and the ball goes straight now! We mainly worked on keeping my height throughout the swing and not over swinging. Also using my chest to hit the ball and move the chest before the hips!

Here is the new swing. Just need to slowly crank up the power!


GaryH Established Member

GaryH

Posted
Posted

Beachcomber is right regarding your takeaway, ayouden.

You are losing connection and plane right away.  You need to take it back more inside whilst keeping the clubhead outside your hands.  Take it inside whilst keeping the left wrist 'in'.  By keeping the left wrist 'in' not only will you retain connection and get to A2 correctly, but also as you keep hinging it from A2 onwards, it will help you hinge it more vertically, up the right forearm.


Beachcomber Super Member

Beachcomber

Posted
Posted

Looking better.  The club shaft needs to get more vertical at A3.  But the start-up from A1 to A2 looks better for sure.

.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

GaryH Established Member

GaryH

Posted
Posted

My instructor insists that once the shaft goes below the right forearm then the swing is lost.  So he wouldn't like ayouden's takeaway-to-halfway back at all.  He's trying to iron this out of my swing.  That's practically all we're working on right now.

I disagree with Beachcomber.  Unfortunately I have to say I don't think ayouden's A1 to A2 move is on the right track at all, and it greatly contributes to his very flat inside shaft plane very shortly after it.


  • Administrator
iacas Hall of Fame Member

iacas

Posted
  • Administrator
Posted
Originally Posted by ayouden

im sorry, but im a bit confused about A1, A2 and A3. Is there a thread or an image to help me on this?

Click the appropriate link in my signature. It's called "terminology" or something.

Erik J. Barzeski — ⛳ I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • Author, Lowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

Note: This thread is 4887 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up

  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).

  • Posts

    • iacas
      Mizuno Jpx One Driver & Fairway Woods

      By iacas · Posted

      Nah, man. People have been testing clubs like this for decades at this point. Even 35 years. @M2R, are you AskGolfNut? If you're not, you seem to have fully bought into the cult or something. So many links to so many videos… Here's an issue, too: - A drop of 0.06 is a drop with a 90 MPH 7I having a ball speed of 117 and dropping it to 111.6, which is going to be nearly 15 yards, which is far more than what a "3% distance loss" indicates (and is even more than a 4.6% distance loss). - You're okay using a percentage with small numbers and saying "they're close" and "1.3 to 1.24 is only 4.6%," but then you excuse the massive 53% difference that going from 3% to 4.6% represents. That's a hell of an error! - That guy in the Elite video is swinging his 7I at 70 MPH. C'mon. My 5' tall daughter swings hers faster than that.
    • M2R
      Mizuno Jpx One Driver & Fairway Woods

      By M2R · Posted

      Yea but that is sort of my quandary, I sometimes see posts where people causally say this club is more forgiving, a little more forgiving, less forgiving, ad nauseum. But what the heck are they really quantifying? The proclamation of something as fact is not authoritative, even less so as I don't know what the basis for that statement is. For my entire golfing experience, I thought of forgiveness as how much distance front to back is lost hitting the face in non-optimal locations. Anything right or left is on me and delivery issues. But I also have to clarify that my experience is only with irons, I never got to the point of having any confidence or consistency with anything longer. I feel that is rather the point, as much as possible, to quantify the losses by trying to eliminate all the variables except the one you want to investigate. Or, I feel like we agree. Compared to the variables introduced by a golfer's delivery and the variables introduced by lie conditions, the losses from missing the optimal strike location might be so small as to almost be noise over a larger area than a pea.  In which case it seems that your objection is that the 0-3% area is being depicted as too large. Which I will address below. For statements that is absurd and true 100% sweet spot is tiny for all clubs. You will need to provide some objective data to back that up and also define what true 100% sweet spot is. If you mean the area where there are 0 losses, then yes. While true, I do not feel like a not practical or useful definition for what I would like to know. For strikes on irons away from the optimal location "in measurable and quantifiable results how many yards, or feet, does that translate into?"   In my opinion it ok to be dubious but I feel like we need people attempting this sort of data driven investigation. Even if they are wrong in some things at least they are moving the discussion forward. And he has been changing the maps and the way data is interpreted along the way. So, he admits to some of the ideas he started with as being wrong. It is not like we all have not been in that situation 😄 And in any case to proceed forward I feel will require supporting or refuting data. To which as I stated above, I do not have any experience in drivers so I cannot comment on that. But I would like to comment on irons as far as these heat maps. In a video by Elite Performance Golf Studios - The TRUTH About Forgiveness! Game Improvement vs Blade vs Players Distance SLOW SWING SPEED! and going back to ~12:50 will show the reference data for the Pro 241. I can use that to check AskGolfNut's heat map for the Pro 241: a 16mm heel, 5mm low produced a loss of efficiency from 1.3 down to 1.24 or ~4.6%. Looking at AskGolfNut's heatmap it predicts a loss of 3%. Is that good or bad? I do not know but given the possible variations I am going to say it is ok. That location is very close to where the head map goes to 4%, these are very small numbers, and rounding could be playing some part. But for sure I am going to say it is not absurd. Looking at one data point is absurd, but I am not going to spend time on more because IME people who are interested will do their own research and those not interested cannot be persuaded by any amount of data. However, the overall conclusion that I got from that video was that between the three clubs there is a difference in distance forgiveness, but it is not very much. Without some robot testing or something similar the human element in the testing makes it difficult to say is it 1 yard, or 2, or 3?  
    • coachjimsc
      Wordle Daily Puzzle

      By coachjimsc · Posted

      Wordle 1,668 3/6 🟨🟨🟩⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜⬜🟨 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    • boogielicious
      Wordle Daily Puzzle

      By boogielicious · Posted

      Wordle 1,668 3/6 🟨🟩🟨🟨⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 Should have got it in two, but I have music on my brain.
    • iacas
      Wordle Daily Puzzle

      By iacas · Posted

      Wordle 1,668 2/6* 🟨🟨🟩⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

  I accept