Golf instrution is infuiating because...contest. Can you beat the left wrist?

[Jon Robert]

Golf instruction is infuriating because...contest.  Can you beat the left wrist?

VISUALIZE!  Beginners on the range or course contorting their bodies to hit a golf ball while trying to have the watch on the left wrist facing the earth.  I hope the community has enough ambulances and plaster to make casts for broken bones.

People try to explain something but all they accomplish is to thoroughly confuse the situation beyond repair.  For example a 3 year old child knows that the wrist can make a circular movement to any degree on a 360 wheel until  the outer range of movement is reached.  As well as any spot withing that circle.  Not only that but the wrist can spin on any one of the spots it is located. And spin at various rates while changing position within the out limits of movement.

So what do we hear about the wrist in the golf swing?  According to the LAW's chart https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/pasdirtz/web/golf/GOLF_LAWs_Chart.html the wrist should be straight or concave.

There is no concave position on a 360 degree circle. Is the vein side concave? The back side concave? or the side side concave? for every concave the opposite side is convex. While the side side is angled.

To understand how to make the wrist "concave" requires searching for answers. This results in people trying to explain something but all they accomplish is to thoroughly confuse the situation beyond repair.

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What does our meaning of concave search discover?

" In the April 1956 issue of Golf Digest, Hogan wrote, "I've noticed one thing that all good golfers do and all bad golfers do not. The good ones have their left wrist leading at impact. It seems a small thing, but I've found it to be universally true. At impact the left wrist of a good player is slightly convex, while that of a poor player is generally concave... This is all easier said than done. Proper supination with a flat or bowed left wrist is an advanced concept and one that it very difficult for the average golfer to learn. The vast majority of golfers instinctively flip their left wrists forward through impact believing that such an action will produce the optimal results: maximum distance and trajectory. Unfortunately, this couldn't be any farther from the truth.

As with most things in golf, intuition must be thrown out the window. Instead, think of rotating your left wrist without breaking it."

http://www.grouchygolf.com/2006/11/supinate-wrist-key-to-solid-swing.html

*********Well surely this teacher knows what they are talking about

after all they have included a photo of Tiger**************

But they also included a helpful link about supination which says:

"A good drill that I've come across to teach this action is the wrist watch drill advocated by David Leadbetter. It relies on the simple image of a wrist watch on your left wrist. Concentrate on maintaining the watch face facing toward the ground at impact." http://www.grouchygolf.com/2006/12/tips-supination-through-impact.html

Lets review the "facts":

the wrist should be straight

the wrist should be concave

The good ones have their left wrist leading at impact

while that of a poor player is generally concave...  (don't look at fact 2 above)

Proper supination

flat or bowed

is an advanced concept

golfers instinctively flip their left wrists

Instead, think of rotating your left wrist without breaking it

wrist watch on your left wrist facing toward the ground at impact

IF I WERE TO CONTINUE THIS EXERCISE WITH MANY MORE SOURCES OF INSTRUCTION A CLUELESS BEGINNER WOULD BE CONFUSED BEYOND REPAIR.

Does anybody ever question stupidity? You would end up in the hospital trying to get your watch to face the ground while attempting to hit a golf ball

Golf instruction is infuriating because...contest. Can you beat the left wrist?

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Jon Robert

Does anybody ever question stupidity? You would end up in the hospital trying to get your watch to face the ground while attempting to hit a golf ball

Golf instruction is infuriating because...contest. Can you beat the left wrist?

The shaft should not pass the lead arm prior to impact. Just at impact or slightly after impact is fine. It's Key #3 in the 5 Simple Keys® because, as you noted above, every good player does it (Lee Westwood does it too, Fred Couples does it, and "Flat Left Wrist" is more about the shaft/lead shoulder relationship). Depending largely on the grip, the lead wrist can be flat, cupped, or arched (bowed) at impact.

The "watch facing the ground" is a feel designed to help people stop flipping their wrists.

I disagree that the lead wrist should be "concave" at impact all the time.

P.S. I don't know what those "LAWs" are but the site seems like a mish-mash of all sorts of stuff. I'm not sure it's worth much, but then again, I'm not sure what your point is. Can you summarize it in a sentence or two?

[BWChuck]

Originally Posted by iacas

It's Key #3 in the 5 Simple Keys® because, as you noted above, every good player does it (Lee Westwood does it too, Fred Couples does it, and "Flat Left Wrist" is more about the shaft/lead shoulder relationship). Depending largely on the grip, the lead wrist can be flat, cupped, or arched (bowed) at impact.

In all seriousness, why did you guys choose to name key #3 "flat left wrist"?  It seems kind of misleading to me.

[Apotheosis]

I dont see how "flat" is misleading.  Not cupped, or bowed at impact.  Makes sense to me.

[GlasgowsGreen]

Golf instruction is infuriating because..

No matter what some golf pro/ youtube golf guru/ internet blogger tells you to do...

...some other golf pro/ youtube golf guru/ internet blogger will tell you to do the exact opposite!

[logman]

Golf instruction is infuriating because golf instructors prefer it that way.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by BWChuck

In all seriousness, why did you guys choose to name key #3 "flat left wrist"?  It seems kind of misleading to me.

Because with all but the most extreme grips or moves (Lee Westwood's bent left elbow), the lead wrist (I was too late to get "left" changed to "lead") is flat. Plus "Shaft just shy of inline with lead arm" is too much of a mouthful. :)

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Originally Posted by GlasgowsGreen

Golf instruction is infuriating because..

No matter what some golf pro/ youtube golf guru/ internet blogger tells you to do...

...some other golf pro/ youtube golf guru/ internet blogger will tell you to do the exact opposite!

There are a lot of lousy instructors out there. Fewer now than even five years ago, but still, there are a lot.

Originally Posted by logman

Golf instruction is infuriating because golf instructors prefer it that way.

Some might. We don't.

[Rocket Man]

"Turn your shoulders in such a way that the club ends up parallel to your target line and then the clubhead runs up a tree trunk like a squirrel" Actual phrase from a golf book that I was reading.Does trying to break your back beat breaking your wrist?