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Originally Posted by mvmac

The rotation of Breed's hands isn't causing the ball to curve right to left

In my understanding - it's not supposed to - it's supposed to square the clubface and keep me from blocking shots to the right - which is what was happening before I started trying to do this - which turned my blocks into pull and snap hooks.

I mentioned a few posts ago that I have given up on this idea of rolling my arms over and instead found a way to stop blocking so many shots with a feeling of really passive arms.  I was reviewing my swing videos from today and a huge lightbulb went off in my head - I am actually doing a 1 plane swing now - and that is probably the big difference.  I never could get my arms high enough in the backswing - but now that I am essentially rotating my body and letting my arms follow along, they track 1 plane pretty well all the way from start of backswing into impact (that's as much as i can see in my videos).


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Originally Posted by iacas

Right. http://thesandtrap.com/t/30392/advice-i-hate-release-the-club/

I couldn't agree more with Erik's thread!  From what I have seen, "releasing" the club is a sure way to hit low pull/hooks or pull/slices.

Originally Posted by AmazingWhacker

Here is Michael Breed explaining pretty much the same thing - my teacher's version is more exagerrated, though. I'm sure my description of it made it sound like a worse concept than it is - but whenever I "try" to do this I pull-hook about every other shot.

Did your instructor explain why you needed to work on this?  What is your normal ball flight?

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Originally Posted by sk golf

I couldn't agree more with Erik's thread!  From what I have seen, "releasing" the club is a sure way to hit low pull/hooks or pull/slices.

Did your instructor explain why you needed to work on this?  What is your normal ball flight?

Well - when I came to my instructor, according to him, I had an inside to out swing path but my clubface was too open - causing me to hit a lot of pushes, blocks and push-slices.  He said it was my clubface - not my path - that was causing these issues and then showed me 2 things - to roll my arms over through impact and also the position that I should be in after impact when the shaft is just past parallel to the ground - the main features of which being that my left wrist would still be flat and my left arm would have done a sort of "dumbell curl".


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Sorry have not posted a new video - I use video all the time but the lighting sucks in my practice area.  On the swings I have posted in the member swings section - I didn't get too many comments other than to fix the lighting :)

My hopes are dashed again - after practicing more of a loose armed - one plane swing - I eventually found it the same as before.  If I do not try to close the clubface then I get left to right spin.  If I do try to close the clubface I get unpredictable results - anything from pull-hooks to pull-slices.

I have a p3proswing that had been collecting dust so I got it back out trying to see if it would help me any.  It shows that when my clubface is open, my swing path is in to out.  When my clubface is closed, my swing path is out to in.  Somehow trying to close the clubface makes me swing out to in.  I can't get my mind to seperate the 2 actions and close the clubface without altering my swing path.

I have a new idea that I'm working on now - and that is focusing on making a dumbbell curl with my left arm after impact.  Basically - at impact I stop my left arm from going out to the right - and make it go up instead - keeping my left elbow pretty close to my left hip.  So far - based on hitting into a net and off the p3proswing - this seems very promising.  I can only do 3/4 swings so far but I am finally getting some in-to-out swings with a closed clubface.  (ie - In to out 2-5 degrees, clubface closed 2-5 degrees).

I saw a video - unfortunately I can't find it now - that talked about always keeping your left elbow pointed to the ground.  This plus my teachers analogy of the "dumbell curl" helped me start working with this move.  I'm going in for a lesson next week - I have been trying everything imaginable to get my clubface closed so enough is enough - time for a checkup and re-alignment.


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