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I agree with you doublesuited. I hit a few slices with S&T; and realized I didn't tilt properly. The tilt is going to feel much different than a weight shift, although different at first it's a very easy move to make. I've used the benchmark of trying to get my hands in behind my shoulder like Baddeley does on his swingvision sequence. For me this takes all the complication about my backswing. Put the club behind my right shoulder and it's locked into the right position. If the tilt is correct then explode with the hips and lower body and watch the ball go. It flies so straight with this swing it's incredible.

Video mentioned from Youtube http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzUd7o5stQ

Swing = Stacked and On Plane when possible.
In My Bag:
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3-Wood: Nike SQ 15° Diamana Stiff (Stock)
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I'm not even remotely close to being in the position to offer a real experienced opinion, since I've only started golf 3 months ago... but as a new student of golf i have had the perfect chance to try both swing methods from a completely blank state. Meaning, I had no ingrained habits and muscle memory to hamper with learning either style. In my opinion it was easier for me and more simpler to learn the ST&T;, and more error free too! With the conventional swing, I'd get fat shots maybe 50-60% of the time, as well as horrible shanks and slices as all newbies do. With ST&T; i hit most my shots clean and crisp with the same amount of practice. I do get slices and even some hooks as well, but a good deal more straight shots than the conventional way!

So, in this newbie's eyes, ST&T; seems to be the easier ( not necessarily better ) method to learn. More fun too, since I'm hitting the golf ball better than the conventional way. Well... that was my 2 cents and I hope it didn't offend or seem rude to any of you experienced players.

In my Bag-Boy NXO Revolver cart bag:
Driver: 909D2 9.5, UST Proforce V2 x-stiff
Wood: Burner '09 3-Wood
Hybrid: H585 3-Hybrid, stiff steel shaft
3-PW: : MP-57 4-PW, Rifle Project X 6.0Wedge: Solus 51, 56, 61Putter: White Hot XG Teron 34"Ball: ProV1x "Practice"


That's a good post osean79. Good point about S&T; being easier to use, in golf I define easy in a couple ways. Easier to get good results, Easier to repeat the movement.

I like how people will carve up Stack & Tilt because Baddeley didn't play well in a final round paired with Tiger. That viewpoint isn't valid in arguing the validity of Stack and Tilt. Nobody has said Stack and Tilt is a miracle swing and you'll shoot 59's every day of the week, what people are saying is that the swing is easier to use, especially for amateurs, due to it's repeatability and straight shots. I think the icing on the cake for Stack and Tilt is that Tour Pros have switched to it and are able to get good results at the highest level of the game.

I'm also the kind of guy that is an early adopter of technology or open to doing things in a different way. I had some early reservations because the move does contradict the main swing theory being used on Tour and by amateurs. After using it for a short time I realized the swing was going to be a good solution for my consistency issues. I was even ready to accept lower distances to get more accuracy, but even that didn't happen. It feels so good when something exceeds expectations, golf so rarely does that.

Swing = Stacked and On Plane when possible.
In My Bag:
Driver: Ping G5 9° Alidila NV 75g Stiff
3-Wood: Nike SQ 15° Diamana Stiff (Stock)
Irons: NIKE FORGED SPLIT CAVIY (S300)Wedges: Taylormade RAC Fe2O3 (Rust) 52°/56°/60°Putter: Titleist/Cameron Newport 1.5Ball: Looking for a new...


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