Rory McIllroy and New Nike VR_S Covert driver

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

I am not sure that someone as talented as Rory would benefit from trying to optimize his numbers. Understanding his own swing and what he needs to do and feel for a given shot ....

I think you contradict yourself a little here, because I believe that optimizing his numbers is the same as the bold.  Or at least it is one tool leading you to that same end goal.  I can't imagine that more understanding could ever hurt.

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We'll have to agree to disagree then.  Because these guys can get numbers, know the flight from video - and ingrain that feel/swing pattern into shaping that particular shot.  I'm betting you haven't used Trackman? At least in a formal instructional environment - with a top tier coach who has been trained on Trackman?

No, I think you guys have to agree to agree, he is just wording it differently. :)

Originally Posted by saevel25

Well it depends really. If you learn the feel, sight, sound of the shots you hit, then you combine that with trackman or other fitting tools, you now got data saying, ok that shot shape and impact feels like this, and that is a couple thousand more RPM. With new technology, its possible to relate feel to numbers now.

Yes, but you aren't "feeling" the RPM.  You're working backwards from what you saw happen with the ball to know that it spun a lot more or less.

[CanuckAaron]

Originally Posted by k-troop

You can feel a draw, and you can feel that you hit the ball a little too high. But you can't feel the difference between 3000 rpm or spin and 5000.

If the ball goes where you want it to, then does it really matter what the numbers are?

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

If the ball goes where you want it to, then does it really matter what the numbers are?

Of course not!  But what about when it doesn't go where you want it to?  Trackman (and the like) can be a valuable tool in helping determine what might be off in your swing.

Furthermore, you can also learn things you didn't know that can help as well.  I recently learned that my driver attack angle is -4 degrees!  More distance has never been a priority for me, but after learning that, I now know that I have more distance in me.  If and when it ever becomes a priority, if I can adjust that attack angle, without changing anything else (except maybe a re-fitting for a driver) I can gain a lot of distance.  [Saw last week that Colt Knost gained 15 yards on his driver just by getting his attack angle from -4 to +0.5]

Without Trackman, it would be hard to know that.

[Beachcomber]

Rory working on his game. The tour better be on watch.

[colin007]

funny, thats EXACTLY what my divot trench looks like too!!!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by colin007

funny, thats EXACTLY what my divot trench looks like too!!!

Problem is yours is after three golf balls, and the target is 30° to the right, no? 1

[colin007]

Problem is yours is after three golf balls, and the target is 30° to the right, no? 1

Yes! Because everyone knows that divots that go to the right mean you're a good player, right? ;-)

[marvin]

Rory in 2012:

Rory in 2013:

Must admit that after having received so much money, Rory didn't say anything to really endorse Nike's products.

[3putter]

Originally Posted by marvin

Must admit that after having received so much money, Rory didn't say anything to really endorse Nike's products.

Other than playing them?