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I'm looking at picking a set of these up as they are on sale for a pretty good price, I am currently bagging Cleveland 588 RTX CBs, but i don't think they are going make it in the bag this year. They just aren't for me. But while at GG I noticed these and the Hex grooves seemed pretty cool, so I figured I'd ask if anyone has played these and what they think.

I was going to buy the Nike wedges this year but the feel wasn't as good as the Mizuno MP T-11's. Ever tried Mizuno? Grain flow forged clubs  and the grind on them make me able to play all types of shots even with the low bounce that I like.

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


I was looking at the MP-T11 also because they were the same price, but I'm having trouble finding a 52*. I really liked the MP-T4s but I having trouble spending that price on new wedges when I just bought those 588s 3 months ago. There are plenty of good deals out there I should be able to find some nice wedges.

with any mizuno you get a lot of club for the money. i would go mizuno mp t11

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


oh and i just looked on ebay and there are tons of 52's

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mizuno-MP-T-11-White-Satin-Chrome-Wedge-Gap-GW-52-Steel-Wedge-Flex-Right-/350714372628?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item51a834a214

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


Thanks, I'm still not sure as it is hard because you can't demo them without them being taped up, which kinda defeats the purpose.

Any forged club, especially wedges just have a distinctive feel between a cast club, forged feel soft. But ping is cast and those are great clubs. Yea and having taped up wedges probably isn't gong to feel or test right but that being said

Nike irons are not even in the same league as Mizuno. Dont quote me but Mizuno quality is far superior.

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


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  shortgame said:
Any forged club, especially wedges just have a distinctive feel between a cast club, forged feel soft.

That might have been true 20 years ago. Not so much anymore.

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  iacas said:
That might have been true 20 years ago. Not so much anymore.

I agree, and as someone that has played Nike SV tours, Cleveland CG 14s, Vokey SM3s, Ping Ansers, Scratch 1018s, Scratch JDMs, Bridgestone J40s, and Cleveland 588 Rtx, in the last 3 seasons the feeling of forged to cast is very hard to tell. Honestly the 588s feel softer than the j40s.


  iacas said:
Originally Posted by iacas

That might have been true 20 years ago. Not so much anymore.


In terms of softness, maybe.  In terms of consistency, nope!

Whats in my :sunmountain: C-130 cart bag?

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In terms of softness, maybe.  In terms of consistency, nope!

You're still wrong.

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In terms of softness, maybe.  In terms of consistency, nope!

What consistencies are we talking about? In club manufacturing or swing consistencies?


  Jspangler said:
What consistencies are we talking about? In club manufacturing or swing consistencies?

I think he's referring to the club. He thinks that forged wedges will have much less variation shot to shot vs. a cast club. But as has already been stated ... He's incorrect. (Trust me, iacas knows what he's talking about. Dude has a set of forged wedges and an IDENTICAL set that is cast. And he's a pro. So if he says there ain't a difference I'm gonna take his word for it)

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Give Tiger the same exact nike vr pro irons and cast them and see what he thinks! Also Tigers wedges are forged. You cant buy his wedges in forged only cast.

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


Casting clubs creates air pockets in the metal, forging clubs its impossible to create air pockets because they are made from a sold piece of steel. Casting has become better within the last 10 years but still cannot guarantee anything. Air pockets cause inconsistency.

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


  shortgame said:
Give Tiger the same exact nike vr pro irons and cast them and see what he thinks! Also Tigers wedges are forged. You cant buy his wedges in forged only cast.

Can we ask lee Westwood? Mark Wilson? There are several tour pros who play cast irons ... Do they just not care about the quality of their clubs? Or perhaps are you overstating it just a pinch?

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As I stated above ping makes great cast clubs. Ping has casting down to a science.

Driver:  905R 9.5* Project X 6.0

3 Wood:  910FD 15* Project X 8C4

Hybrid:  Vr Pro 21* 3H Project X HD2

Irons:  775 CB 4-G Project X Pxi 6.0

Wedges:  MP T-10 56/8, 60/5

Putter:  Anser 2

Ball:  Gamer V2 or  NXT


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