Pushing Irons

[nyjets2806]

Anyone ever push there irons out to the right alot? i just recently started doing it about a day ago and it really kills your GIR. What kind of fixes do you guys use for pushes?

[lhshurdl3r]

aim a tad to the left (if you're a righty), move the ball up a little in your stance... move further away from the ball.

see what works best for you. anybody else, correct me if i'm wrong.

[Leek]

  nyjets2806 said:

Anyone ever push there irons out to the right alot? i just recently started doing it about a day ago and it really kills your GIR. What kind of fixes do you guys use for pushes?

If you're pushing, you are probably under the plane, which makes you swing inside out.

A few questions to be sure: What are your divots like: deep, shallow, often no divot (choose one) Are you stronger with the longer clubs, especially the driver? Are your misses either hooks or pushes? How well do you play 150 yard fairway bunker shots?

[thumper07]

wouldn't swinging inside-out cause a draw and not a push. i'm going through this right now with my irons. the longer the iron the worse the push. i'm really trying to work on turning my left shoulder up instead of around. that causes your hands to drop from the inside. its just been really hard for me to work into my swing, but when i do it right i actually hit a nice little draw. give it a shot.

-matt

[iacas]

  thumper07 said:

wouldn't swinging inside-out cause a draw and not a push. i'm going through this right now with my irons. the longer the iron the worse the push. i'm really trying to work on turning my left shoulder up instead of around. that causes your hands to drop from the inside. its just been really hard for me to work into my swing, but when i do it right i actually hit a nice little draw. give it a shot.

If the clubface is square to the inside-to-out path, it's a push. If square to the target line, it's a draw.

[Leek]

  thumper07 said:

wouldn't swinging inside-out cause a draw and not a push. i'm going through this right now with my irons. the longer the iron the worse the push. i'm really trying to work on turning my left shoulder up instead of around. that causes your hands to drop from the inside. its just been really hard for me to work into my swing, but when i do it right i actually hit a nice little draw. give it a shot.

Actually, the only way to push is inside-out. If you can answer the questions above, it will tell a lot about how to fix this.

[nyjets2806]

If you're pushing, you are probably under the plane, which makes you swing inside out.

A few questions to be sure:

What are your divots like: deep, shallow, often no divot (choose one) \
I personally dont take divots too often. I sweep the ball but if i do decide to take one or hit it fat, they're usually straight where I think I'm aimed.
Are you stronger with the longer clubs, especially the driver?
Driver and 3 wood are my second strongest clubs next to my wedges but irons are the worst the longer they get though they aren't really that bad.
Are your misses either hooks or pushes?
Mostly pushes as of right now but I have been know to hook shots from time to time.
How well do you play 150 yard fairway bunker shots?
Considering the main course I play at has only 4 bunkers (all greenside) I don't play too many of them, but when I do I never seem to have too big a problem with them. Not much different than playing off pine straw in my opinion. (which is one thing my main course actually does have a lot of)

[Leek]

  nyjets2806 said:

If you're pushing, you are probably under the plane, which makes you swing inside out.

Your answers indicate an inside out swing that has a very shallow angle of approach, or what's known as under the plane. Here are a series of things to work on.

First, at setup make sure the club points at your belt buckle. Start the takeaway by moving the club with your gut as if the head and was stuck in the ground. Once the arms kick in make sure as you turn there is some lifting of the club. At the top, you want your right arm bent at an angle elbow down with your underarm visible, and your hands are above your shoulders. Start down by using the ground to stretch the left side of your torso. Make a motion that would throw your arms right off off your body if you had detachable arms like a Mannequin. These arms should hit the ground near the target line just ahead of the ball. RESIST moving the upper body area forward. Stay as bent over as you can swing left and finish with your hands as far from your left ear as you can. Some signs you are on plane: You will consistently take a divot and if you have a flat left wrist at impact, you will begin compressing the ball, gain a lot of distance and start getting a lot of backspin on your shorter irons. If you are using premium balls, expect to see them backing up! Divots will curve slightly left of the target.

[nyjets2806]

ill give it a try at the driving range tommorw. i appreaciate the input.