johnny2balls

your friend was correct. Many times I do not take an entitled free relief from a cart path b/c #1 my drop will put me behind a tree such as in your case or #2 my ball is sitting up pretty well and I don't want to drop and risk it falling deep into long grass. just because you are on a cart path does not mean you can drop on either side. you can only drop at a spot which is your nearest point of relief and one club length. what you are getting relief from is standing on the path. where if the nearest spot you can stand and not be on the path...that's your spot then your club length. a lefty and a righty will have two completely different spots to drop when it comes to a cart path. their nearest point of relief will be different. if a righty and lefty both hit their balls and they comes to rest on the same spot on the path, one will be dropping on the left side of the path and the other will be dropping on the right side.

How many spots from Champions Q school are there? I always thought 2-4 approx as opposed to 50 for the PGA (25 N-Wide, 25 Q school) The game we are seeing from this guy is not even close to the game one needs to make it onto the Champions Tour from Q School. It's a universe away. But at the same time, it's t.v....it's fake...it's a t.v. show.

Sounds like your high school coach is another idiot in a long line of moronic high school coaches. Some of these guys just don't get it.

My point was who cares about a vanity cap? It's the sandbaggers you have to worry about. A guy with a vanity cap can never hurt you. You should beat them everytime. If a guy says he's a 2 but is really a 9 and you're a 10. Take the 8 shots and smoke him. If I'm betting on a game with a guy, I'll take his BS vanity cap any day and take his money everyday. If a guy is cheating by playing 2 balls or fluffing his lies to get a low cap, then hold him to the rules in a tournament and beat him. If he does not play tournaments yet goes around saying he's scratch then who cares? he's the one who has to live whith himself. As far as getting a cap at one course it reminds me of the old Harvey Penick statement. A mom came to harvey and said my son is shooting par at our course do you think he can make it in tournament golf. And Harvey said well he now has to go accross the street and shoot par and down the road and shoot par etc...

In the US we don't have an issue with "vanity caps" we have the opposite problem. Guys with high handicaps, say an 18 who play to about a 12 or a 12 who plays to about an 8. Those are the guys to watch out for. If a guy says he's a 4 and he's really an 11 then who cares? Beat him and take his money round after round. In my life I will never worry about a vanity cap player. I will only worry about a sandbagger. If you play in a lot of tournaments a vanity cap is nothing you want to have and most guys realize that. Most guys. This is why people need to post every score they shoot not just the low ones and not just the high ones. But if you have a good handicap committee then they should test every cap before a competition starts and make sure all the caps are legit. You do this by comparing their tournament scores. There is a formula in the USGA handicap book.

When I was at the Ryder Cup at Vahalla I bought one of the coverage radios. It had 2 channels the US and European. The European channel was not only better it was 100% better. Most people I talked to listened to the European ch. The announcers were much better. Just like the t.v. coverage we see on the Golf Ch. It's night and day.

It's the exact same coverage every year. Nothing new this year except Bill. Normally Bill does not make the cut and if he or another celebrity is not at the top of the leaderboard you won't see them on Sunday coverage. Typically Sunday coverage is all Pros trying to win the tournament.

This is part of the theory behind face-on/sidesadddle putting. Conventional putting is the only thing we as humans do, where we not only don't face our target we don't even look at the target. In putting we need accuracy not power. Imagine doing these accuracy type things while standing sideways to your target and looking at your hand the whole time: throwing darts bowling a hockey shot bocce ball rolling any bal towards a target pitching a softball underhand. even baseball pitchers open up to their target throwing a lacrosse ball etc....

That's a good thing right? The bong part, not the part about you not being crazy about him

Yes, I did not mean lazy as in practicing his golf. I meant lazy in general when it comes to working. In the episode where his buddy who owns the club shop had his cleaning clubs he acted like a lazy spoiled brainless adult male. Typically when you work and have a job you have some amount of responsibility. This guy avoids responsibility by any means necessary even if that means sleeping in a pipe down by the river or crashing at homeless shelters. We now know why he does not have a job to support hif golf dream, because he is lazy and does not want the reposibility of having a job, and getting an apartment and paying bills etc... which is part of his mental illness. I work in the mental illness field. Day in and day out 24/7. This guy is mentally ill and needs more than anxiety meds. As far as ground rules. The guy who's not only putting up the money but caddying for free should have been the one to set up the ground rules. I got the cash, it's my way or the highway in that situation.

you're entitled to your original lie

Last night showed how much of a complete a hole and obnoxious mentally ill guy he is. He is sick in the head. He showed how easy he can lose his temper. I have no doubt he probably smacked his wife around. He talks about being innocent every episode yet never shows his proof he just talks nonsense with his stack of papers just like mentally ill people do. He has showed that he is lazy and not only does not know how to work does not even want to. He has no concept of what a friend is.

What non-conventional styles that pros use bother you? Left hand low, claw, belly, long, wide stance like Kenny Perry, KJ Choi or Gary McCord sidesaddle, Natalie Gulbis Hammy style. All of them or just some of them? Or are long shafts the only thing that bother you and not different grips with a shorter putter. If it's just the long shafts is it that they are anchored eitheir in the belly or under the chin? With sidesaddle and hammy no part of the shaft is anchored to the body. Do you all think that non-conventional putting styles will continue to increase in the coming years?

I have a stereo on my golfcart and it always plays music during rounds. Most people enjoy it but of course if comes down to the DJ knowing what to play and how to control the volume.

I own several pairs of Footjoy Classics Tour (the US made ones) and love em but I wear one of my many pairs of Adidas Originals when I go to practice, evening rounds and Friday night rounds with my wife and have never been able to tell a difference. Of course if it's wet you need spikes, but hills make no difference. Last year I got a couple of pairs of Ecco Street Premiers and I love them. My everyday work shoes are one of 3 pairs of spikeless Footjoy Classics and many nights I will go straight from work to play or hit balls and there is zero difference between the spikeless and spiked shoes for me when it comes to how I play and putt. Only if the ground is wet.

If so, do you look at the hole or at the ball? How long is you putter and is it made for sidesaddle/face on putting? What are your thoughts on this style of putting?

I got mine on an incredible deal. But you could make one as far as flat putting surface. To put in all the breaks that they can do would be a little more difficult, but could be done by someone with woodworking skills. I think mine can do like 50,000 breaks or something. You need the right carpet. Mine rolls about an 11 on the stimp. As far as a home putting surface, I have yet to see a better design.

Anybody else out there have one of their greens? I have a 3' x 12' and it's the greatest golf training device I own. I'm wondering if anybody has added another hole at the opposite end? Thanks

The tour does give a penalty. A financial pennalty. We just never hear of it b/c it's all issued behind closed doors. I talked with players and they joke that Ben Crane must set up a slow play reserve account at the beginning of the season and just makes withdrawls from it as assessed. What the tour does not do is give out stroke penalities. For whatever reason. Finchem needs to step up, mandate it and let it be done. It's the only thing that will work. Fines do not and will never work.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I have always said it's probably bad Karma to knock another guys putting. I've seen lots of right or left handers putt the other way. In essence it's a "left hand low" style, depending on their orientation. Remember that Notah Begay putts both right and left depending on the break. That's unconventional. Just as is the claw grip, left hand low, 2 finger pistolero like what Geoff Magnum teaches and many other ways to hold it. Whatever works eh!

Robert has been using that putter for a long time with and without success. Here is what Geoff Mangum thinks about Robert's putter and very short putters in general http://www.network54.com/Forum/52812/message/1253601232/last-1253601232/Too+Short+is+Not+Good

Great responses. Thanks. I always figured most golfers could care less just like I do. I've never even tried belly or long believe it or not the two I have done is hammy style and sidesaddle/face on. I had not putted face on for well over a year but the recent article on it by Gary McCord in the last golf magazine made me dust it off and I tell you what, it is such an easy mindless way to put. You still have to read the greens and break correctly but as far a lining it up and having your ball go straight after impact is just so simple. I also think the putter and even more so the shaft has a lot to do with it.

what happened to Natalie? She switches putters and wins her one and only tournament and putts the best of her career, switches putters again and has not sniffed a leaderboard yet hasn't even had a top 10 with the new putter. She had 18 starts last year with 14 cuts made and zero top 10 finishes.

75% of my t.v. viewing is the Golf Channel. That is if I can find stuff to watch on there 75% of the time. The new morning show, it's just OK to me. The 2 guys are pretty annoying and if they are going to get off of the subject of golf, I would rather switch to ESPN. What bothers me with the GC is the re-runs of Hank Haney and Charles Barkley and Big Breaks from years ago and just the junk they put on. Play re-runs of CBS Wide World of Golf, Masters re-runs, come up with new programming. Anything! I thought the little sgment they did on Golf Central with the Hooters guys yeserday was great. I'll take that stuff all day long. Too much in the world of golf to have such bad programming.

I'm talking about the PGA, Nationwide and for the most part LPGA (they are at least trying to fix the problem) Yes, there is rule 6-7 but in a PGA tournament there are no shots assesed for slow play. They give out fines ($$$). And as far as I know the fines and not made public. It's not a USGA thing. This is a PGA Tour thing. My point was that if the PGA started to hand out shots and eventually DQ a player, maybe just maybe we can fix this terrible problem. Fines are not going to do as we have seen and are seeing every week. The vast majority of PGA players are fast golfers. Out of curiosity what does the European Tour do for slow play? Do they assess strokes or hand out fines? But I imagine they don't have nearly the problem that the PGA Tour does.