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This is a set of the Mizuno MP-58 irons. 5 iron through PW. Six clubs total. The shafts are soft step R flex True Temper Dynamic Gold SL. The grips are Winn Xi7 standard size. Lie and length of the clubs are standard Mizuno. I bought these a little over a year ago so they only have one season on them. They are in very good condition with just a little bag chatter. The PW does have a nick in the sole. Note I bought these irons at Miles of Golf in Ypsilanti. They are not the fakes being sold on eBay. These are the real deal. I'll include the original receipt with the sale. The irons originally came with the stock True Temper DG S300 stiff shafts. I will include them in the sale at no extra cost. So if you want stiff shafts you can just swap them out. In addition, I'm also going to include a Mizuno MP-57 6 iron with the sale. I bought this to use at that range so I wouldn't wear out the MP-58. I'll post pics as soon as I get home. Price is $350 via PayPal. Please ask any questions.

These are great. Thanks for the link!

I'm flying out this weekend to the BCS National Championship game in Glendale, AZ. We'll be staying in Tempe. We're looking to play a round while out there. Can you recommend a course with a reasonable price? We'll also need to rent clubs. If you know of a local pro shop that rents that would be great. I know courses usually have sets but my experience is that they're generally pretty poor. Thanks!

Agreed. Most people have no idea what to look for even if they see a video of their swing. I visit the range probably 1-2 times per week. I rarely see anyone filming. I've been taking video of myself pretty consistently for about three years now. I love it. I still do struggle sometimes with what I'm looking at but I enjoy it.

Thanks! I finally came across that. Surprised they don't put that on the label

I bought some high density lead tape from Golfsmith. It's 1/2" version. I don't have a scale at home and am trying to determine how many grams 1" is equal to. I've searched on line and have seen a variety of responses. Anyone here know?

That's awesome that you caddy there. The staff was great. I would love to play again with a caddy. Due to the event, we all had carts. Couple of oddities I noticed was how they have no signs for what hole you're on. The cart paths didn't exactly lead to the next whole sometimes. Also noticed they had no trash cans on any of the holes. Not a complaint, just and oddity. I had a blast. I think if you go in having the mind set that you're probably not going to shoot better than your handicap, you'll have a good time. After I parred the first whole, I thought about quitting. How could it get any better than that? :)

I played I think a Top Flite a couple weeks back at twilight since I was having trouble seeing the ball. Worked great. I still keep it in my bag.

We certainly didn't win. They had kind of a weird scoring system that I couldn't quite follow. We didn't have a single birdie in the group. I play at a 14 hcp and one of my other partners is about an 8. The other two guys were 20+. I drove the ball pretty well but struggled with my irons. I shot a 93 using the format above. I really only had one melt down putting wise on #18.

I had the opportunity to play Oakland Hills South course yesterday. I was obviously really excited to be playing such a legendary course. The round was a fund raiser for the Detroit YMCA. The format as a shotgun start and a modified best ball. We'd all tee off and the pick the best drive and then play our own ball out from there. Two best scores were totaled. My impressions of the course The condition of the course was spectacular. Very green and the sand was very white. You could easily tell it was a private course as it did not show the typical wear this late in the season. There terrain fairly rolling. More so than I expected as most of Detroit is fairly flat all though it does get hilly the further north you go. The Donald Ross course really uses terrain as a challenge. Even in the middle of the fairway, the ball can be about or below your feet. I have never spent so much time in the sand. What the course lacks in water is made up in sand. Almost every whole you play has fairway bunkers on the left and right side near your standard drive landing zone. No matter what tees you play from, you'll have the same challenge. Most of the greens are fairly elevated so the bunkers are pretty deep. I was in the right bunker on #17 Par 3 and couldn't even see the flag. I am proud to say I didn't have to take any shots twice out of the bunker. The rough was deceptively thick. It's almost like it's laying down and you don't realize how think it is until you hit out of it. I heard it's much longer when the pros are in town. I can imaging. Now for my favorite part, the greens. They were fast, but not pool table fast. They were huge with all kinds of undulation. You just can't get an idea on tv how much the greens move. Even for a charity event, most of the pins were not in an easy location. The wost was #11 which had a false front that dropped off into the fairway. It was comical watching us putt around it. On #18 par 5, I was proud to be on the green in three after hitting out of a fairway bunker. I probably had a 15 foot putt for Birdie. I ended up four putting. The hole was on top of a mound and it would role off either way if your speed wasn't right. I was surprised how how little water and trouble there is on the course. Really only two holes have water in play. Even bad drives, you should be able to find your ball fairly easily. That being said the ruff, slope, and sand punish you for inaccurate drives. From the whites at 6534 yards, 73.2 rating and 135 slope, OHCC is certainly the hardest course I've ever played. The club house is what you'd expect from a famous course like this. White with huge columns. It's on top of a hill overlooking the course. Looks like something out of the movies. I wasn't sure of the rule but I took my hat off every time I went in. I was glad to find out later that that was standard practice. They've got a set of beach lawn chairs overlooking #10 and #18. I cigar and a bourbon watching players come in would be a fine way to spend the afternoon. If I had one complaint it would be that Mondays must be ground maintenance day. There was constant mowing and trimming going on all day long. I was surprised that wasn't wrapped up in the AM. Finally, here's some pics. You can tell it got sunnier as the day went on. #13 Par 3 154 yards Overlooking #9 Par 3. You can see #10 Par 4 to your right and #11 Par 4 to your left. At tee box #9 Par 3 198 yards #1 Par 4 at the tee box #18 Par 5 from the middle of the fairway

You can use a driver to get out of a bunker but it's a heck of a lot easier with a SW. A SW can be any wedge loft that you feel comfortable. I'd like at a 54* or 56* with a lot of bounce.

Side note, my screen has gotten pretty scratched up from lose items in my pocket. I asked Callaway how much it would cost to replace the glass and they said the currently don't offer that but would replace the unit for $200.

I use soft stepped DG SL R shafts in my irons. I plan on pulling the shafts in my Vokeys and going to a DG R300 or the SLs.

Interesting in that I've been considering doing the exact same thing.

I know this happens all the time but we had a teenager who thought it would be funny to take his car and do donuts on the green. Well during his "fun", his car got stuck and he had to walk home. Of course when the police came, they were easily able to track down the culprit. $20,000 in damages his parents had to pay. Ouch!!!!

If he hits dead right and still slices, he got the face wide open at impact (causing the ball to start right) and his swing path may be on plane or over the top (causing ball to curve right). Hard to say on swing path without seeing his ball flight. Could be that he's on plane but just with an open face. Lots of things can cause this. Does he have a left arm chicken wing? Is his head moving toward the target on his downswing? Too weak of a grip?

Good point.

Great!!! Thanks for the update. I'll check it out.

That's not what I was implying but looking back I supposed I did a poor job of explaining it. I was trying to say that the switch to blades did not hurt my handicap. My drop in handicap can be directly attributed to a better short game this year.

I agree with tim31x. No club is going to keep you from hitting shanks or throwing the club in the ground on your downswing. I can personally attest to that. I moved from Cleveland CG Golds to MP 58s this year. I've been playing with them since March. One of my playing partners asked me why I moved to "blades". I said my misses have nothing to do with what club I'm swinging. I have a tendency to fall towards the ball during the downswing. This causes a shank to rise it's ugly head every now and then. I can shank just as easy with my GI club as with my blades. I've been thinking about starting a thread about this but was waiting to get some more data. I recently went to the range with my Zelocity Pure Contact to conduct an experiment. I was curious if I was consistently losing distance with my MP 58s vs my CG Golds. The MP58s have a slightly weaker loft so I was expecting a little drop in distance. Comparing 6i between the two clubs, I was surprised to find that my average ball speed and carry distance was slightly better with the MP58s than the CG Golds. I was also more accurate with the MP58. I think that may have more to do with simply being more used to the MP58s since I play regularly with them. I want to do this again at one of our local Trackman to get some solid data. The biggest difference I notice with the blades is I can really tell when I make a center hit or not. I think they do give you more feedback when you're really examining your swing. I also agree with the other posters that the MP58s are one of the more forgiving "blades" out there. BTW, my HCP has gone down since switching to blades. They are not some wild horse that's difficult to tame. There's way too much of that mystic surrounding them.

Sounds like you're more in the G15 category.

I have to say I love when someone posts a question and people don't actually try and answer their question. If the man wants to try it, let him try it. Back to the OP, I seem to recall that in a set not all the clubs were U grooves anyway. Haven't the longer irons always been V grooves. This could make your modifications a little more manageable. I would also think forged irons would be easier to change. I'd suggest taking an old club and trying it first. Then take it to course and see if you can tell the difference.

Not sure if this will work but you could try using a U groove file on a V groove club. I have a U/V file to sharpen my wedges. Seems like a lot of work convert from a V to a U. Not sure you'd be able to tell the difference anyway.

I picked up two Adams Pro Gold hybrids and have really liked them. Especially in the Ozik shaft. You can find good deals on them now since they're last year's model.

Wow you guys are cheap! It's the same as a door man hailing a cab for you or opening the door. Some courses provide that as part of there "service". There's nothing wrong with telling them you're ok and don't need a wipe down. I also see no issue with them trying to do it.