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Consistency is attaining perfect opposition of the forces and aiming them correctly from an address that is set to do so, and it's game over. Two axis on stilts that are as stable as all get out. YOU CANT OVERDO IT....NOT POSSIBLE.

Sorry if I missed your requests. DOCF was discovered by Martin Ayers of Australia in his quest to dissect Hogan's action. There are lots of swings, descriptions, and even an entire four part clinic on Youtube if you just search for DOCF or Martinez (Ayers sounds like 'ez' in an Australian accent). The hallmark of DOCF is consistency. The club is captured by opposing right/left side forces that establish railroad tracks to the top and back down where you arrive in early position to hit, wondering what just happened. The reason it works is that these opposing forces (established at setup and maintained throughout) wrest control of your body and the club away from you. Blocking any manipulation. Picture a clock pendulum, just driven by a spring. Once flung, it rides back and forth in a virtual channel. No manipulation necessary or possible. I engrained the feel of the left/right forces within a few hours of practice.

Passed a golf course with my son, doubled back and started playing, got kicked off, came back after dusk, once you're bit that's it.

You can't do your best until you stop trying to beat people and start beating the course (par that is).

Everything. Lag Pressure

It's not the lag angle that counts, it's how much shaft flex you have coming into impact that determines acceleration hence velocity. Sergio's wrist angle is not an end in itself, he does that to flex the shaft as long as possible into impact or even beyond. You can train yourself to maximize shaft flex by throwing a club at a target without a ball, by getting that SonicGolf widget used by VJ that generates a tone based on velocity, or by getting the Orange Whip trainer or just a club with a very soft shaft. While playing, sense the shaft flex by feeling the 'lag pressure' against the knuckle of your right index finger. Shaft flex = acceleration = compression = straighter shots.

DOCF is diametrically opposed circular forces. At setup and throughout the swing, aim opposing forces of the left and right side toward the target. For consistency, nothing else matters.

Started out five years ago over 25 and plateaued at 10 until a month ago, when I learned DOCF. Now it's dropping every week.

Since I learned DOCF a month ago the fat shots that plagued me since I started five years ago have disappeared. Completely.

I plateaued at 10 for a long time until I discovered DOCF. Uses opposing dynamic forces to keep your focus on the target getting you into an early position to hit. In three weeks my handicap fell to 8.7 and it's still falling...

The line that you hit on is dependent on the ball position and the position from which you are hitting. The important thing is to get into position to hit and to do that you need the right dynamics exemplified by Hogan's swing : 1) during setup intentionally apply a torque of the lower body to the left side and maintain it throughout. The pressure to the left keeps the hands and clubhead in a consistent slot close to the right pocket during the takeaway sling, arriving at the same position at the top every time. The constant left side torque also forces the body into an early squat in the downswing - the correct position from which to hit. 2) keep the right side expanded/extended from setup to follow through to keep it from compressing/collapsing in the downswing which plagues good players like VJ to sling from under the plane. 3) turn the right shoulder toward the ball to start the downswing, not the hips. If the right shoulder turns first you can't come OTT. The hips must stay centered for stability and balance. Never try to turn the hips, keep them centered. I have witnessed these three simple dynamics easily mastered by beginners within one day. For me, it has resulted in an automated consistent swing that requires little practice to maintain.

Exactly. Don't practice a lot until you have the right technique. Nothing else matters. After five years of struggle I attended a golf clinic recently and learned a new swing technique called DOCF. IMO it is a game changer. PGA tour players are taking notice - Steve Elkington showed up at the one I attended. After 1.5 days of instruction my old swing disappeared and my flaws went with it. In three weeks my handicap plummeted from 10.3 to 8.7 and I am still improving. Now if I could only learn how to post my before and after videos ! Iacas - Get down to one of Martin Ayer's clinics if only to observe new golfers of all ages getting into tour positions after only a day of instruction in this new dynamic. Unheard of.

Celebrating recent surge into single digits...I attended the DOCF clinic and immediately improved. No problem with Right Axis Expansion, LATT or The Wall. Still working on Right Axis Containment and DIF for more power. Not plateauing like before because The Wall gets me to exactly the same position at the top every time and LATT propels me to the left side like a rocket into the 'sitdown'. I will post a video as soon as my son shows me how LOL.

Attended a DOCF clinic this weekend and learned how to crush the ball on the 'wall', feeling what Hogan discovered so many years ago. Now I know for sure that it is not an intentional hip slide. The targetward focus from setup to follow through is what brought him back to the target so early. Saw Steve Elkington there and he is a convert. Even got to shake his hand.

I started playing within my limitations and dropped my handicap from 20 to 10 shortly thereafter. By using nothing longer than a 7i and de-lofting the club to insure good contact, I can par every 3 and 5 but lay up on the par 4s. Recently I discovered DOCF which is getting me to my left side earlier, in the backswing. I'm finally able to use longer clubs and par some of the 4s, breaking into single digits !

According to Hogan afficionados who shall remain nameless, Martin Ayers has supposedly gone beyond Hogan using Hogan's recipe of constant experimentation. I am not enough of an expert to confirm their assertion. But DOCF has finally dropped me into high single digits after a frustrating two year plateau. I know it gets much harder from here.

I par all the 3's and 5's with nothing longer than 7i. You're right, I have to lay up on the par 4's. DOCF is helping me hit long irons straighter, occasionally getting to high single digits. One step at a time.

Many refuse to accept what is the ugly truth. If you play in a group you are pressured to use driver or 3 wood off the tee FOR SOME STUPID REASON. When I finally realized that two years ago, I started playing with a 7i for all shots. My GIR and handicap improvement was startling. Golf instructors, equipment mfrs and forum owners can't tell you that because they would starve.

Still working on upper/lower body separation, Martin Ayers (DOCF) is the real thing. Also right arm breakdown as always. I have a Swing Extender if I ever get it out of the trunk.... Lag containment and a low left release are also in the mix.

Yes and what creates correct sequence ? Maximum separation between the upper/lower body during transition ! Hogan's 'tension' in Five Lessons - stretched muscles that pull the shoulders, arm and club through in a crescendo of increasing acceleration. This insures NO deceleration can occur prior to impact. No flipping. Maximum shaft flex, clubhead lag and ball compression. If you MUST define a Hogan secret, it is maximum separation.

Great question. I have given up on most golf instruction and experiment to find dynamics that automate the swing. Dynamics determine positions not the other way around. Most golf instructors do not understand the body and how it works. They teach by feel. This is the reason why golfers don’t get better. Golf is taught with the instructors feel and the student does not produce the same feel. They keep searching for it but most never get it. Hogan's focus on tension in Five lessons is a natural way to separate the upper and lower body so critical to automating the downswing sequence and preventing deceleration of the clubhead prior to impact. The golfer learns this fundamental easily and produces there own feel that they can reference. This leads to improvement. When people like Hogan describe their own golf swing you hardly ever hear of, much less can you SEE, their exertions. You cannot see which muscles they exert, their sequence, how they are in balance within their body and its distribution of mass. Most of all you can't know their mental process that controls or drives or commands impulses to generate the instantaneous actions they make. So teaching, analyzing, describing golf swings in terms only of the visible is simply insufficient, since what must be LEARNED are the exertions, their amounts, their relative importance one to another, their sequence, and their controls. All of which gets back to the necessity to provide images and to use them to give the intuition something to grasp. We need to thank Hogan for his contributions, his images, his struggles to explain that which is inexplicable.

Flipping is caused by deceleration prior to impact. Easily fixed by adding a little stretch in your swing at the very top. Overacceleration

Agreed, ballstriking. Especially when you experiment with a new dynamic like this one that has finally gotten me into single digits. Radical stuff though you will be attacked for straying from the gospel.

Aiming point is a position. TGM covers all swing methods so of course it includes the aiming point concept. Dynamics make positions not the other way around. IMO trying to achieve a position via manipulation only leads to inconsistency. Dynamics are much more reproducible. I would focus on discovering a dynamic that results in the proper swing bottom commonly accepted as being 4" in front of the ball.

I can get a demo iron (6i) at any local golf shop for $10 or less. Not at a discounter like Dick's, mind you, at a full retail golf shop.