Doctorfro

I joined my first club at 28 years old. It was very cheap considering we used their pool a lot when the kids were young. But I played a good bit of golf. Well worth it. Moved to Charlotte and joined a golf club there and I used it considerably and my youngest got the bug and played a lot. Fast forward and my kids are grown and gone and my wife and I have moved to the Raleigh/Durham area where I am now considering whether to join a local club that has 54 holes, many amenities but the initiation fee and dues are pricey $$! And it’s quite fancy. So weighing whether I want to buy into that lifestyle. I love to play but is the $$ worth it. I say go for it if the bottom line is something you can live with.

I get that this sport is different than most in that a player calls penalties on themselves. And it goes without question that this girl committed an egregious penalty. But if this was so blatant as many have pointed out, why didn't someone who was on that green or around it, say something? You're telling me that only the camera man was able to view this and therefore the viewers at home? I can take you back through game film of thousands of basketball or football games and show you intentional fouls or penalties that weren't called that affected the outcome of the game. The NBA and NFL on numerous occasions have come back after the fact and said "hey, we missed that one". But they don't alter the outcome or issue a do over. I get that some of you are so tied to the integrity of the game that you feel it doesn't matter how it gets called but that's where we differ. I completely believe in integrity of the game but some random fan should not be able to call in and affect the outcome of ANY sporting event. And my two cents: what should the LPGA do about blatant cheating? Fines and suspensions, just like other pro sports.

Maybe that's not his "responsibility" but I would rather see someone like that make the call rather than some random person intervening. It's not right.

OK, she moved her ball. Wrong on all counts. Viewer call in....absolutely wrong. If you were watching an NBA game and they missed a call, say a guy stepped OB, you can't call in and have that affect the game. It doesn't work that way. If the rules guy following them around misses the call, he misses the call! Or a playing partner, or a caddie. This call in crap has got to stop.

32 miles road cycling, five miles on treadmill (three running, two walking).

Ahh, missed it

Did no one see what happened to Jordan on the last fairway? He addressed the ball , started to swing and backed off. He said, "did you see that?" I thought the ball moved

So, did Speiths ball move in the fairway?

Well, I don't play old clubs anymore but I played a set of Ping irons for about 17 years and the original Callaway Big Bertha woods (Driver - 3 wood - 5 wood) for almost as long. Unless you simply can't afford any sticks I don't see the point in playing the really old stuff with the plethora of choices we have at our disposal that make the game more fun and enjoyable. You still have to be able to swing the sticks decently but technology does help.

To the OP.....I get it. But my advice is to nod, say thanks, and go on about your round. There are all kinds of folks playing golf (some very nice, some soooo annoying). Learning to be polite yet focus on your own game is a good skill to learn. You don't have to be best buddies with the guys you get paired with, but you don't have to be an a**hole either. We all have different motivations for playing the game but a common denominator for most of us is to have fun. Keep your perspective and keep swinging your sticks. It's all good.

I have two sons (grown now, 7 years apart) and both took up the game. My oldest was a decent ball striker but the strength of his game was his putting. He just had an excellent stroke and tremendous feel on the greens. His downfall was his attitude. Once he hit a bad shot he struggled to keep his game together. When the second real bad shot happened in a round, well, that round was basically over. When my youngest took up the game I talked to him about the older one's ability and attitude. As he developed, he was keenly aware that if he wanted to succeed he had to keep it together. Now he had his moments of anger and frustration when things went awry but he found the ability to use that situation to motivate him to regroup and get his rounds together. He didn't always score great but he had the ability to come back from a big number and minimize the damage. He ended up being a four-year, all-conference golfer in high school. So what did I do in these situations? My oldest just wasn't cut out for competitive golf. He plays corporately today but understands that unless you play frequently the game of golf is feast or famine. My youngest wanted to succeed. He was motivated and simply had an inner desire to do whatever was necessary to keep his cool. They simply had different demeanors. Can you change that in a kid? It's inside them. No magic formula.

Golf has changed meaning for me quite a few times in my life. It was a competitive outlet at times. It was a diversion. It was a challenge that I wanted to conquer. There were times that my self esteem was dictated by my golf score (that wasn't good). So as I've aged it has really just become something that I enjoy more like a hobby. I still play in a tournament here or there but it's mostly about having fun. What I found particularly amusing this weekend was when I was playing in a Ryder Cup-style event. Several guys were getting their underwear in a wad over certain things happening out on the course during the matches. I laughed at most of it and even told one guy to "get over it....it's just a game". Probably wasn't the most tactful thing I could have said but that's just where I am in life. It's fun, but it's not life or death.

Did anyone at CFA say they didn't give a damn about people who are different from themselves? No....just that they didn't agree with them. Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they hate. But you obviously don't get that. You seem to want to go on tirades (mega length posts) where you can spout your superior knowledge so you can feel as such. Fact is, you really don't know the people you have such low opinions of nor do you completely understand these "groups" that you bash. S'ok. Your opinion. You're entitled.

My daughter used to work for the Cathy's and you can be sure, the closing on Sundays is because they truly care about their employees. They go above and beyond what most employers would do to take care of their employees. But, knowing what we know about todays wired world, you definitely need to keep things on the down low.

You're right. In another day and time, what he said would not be national news. But because of the instant media we have, stuff like that spreads like wildfire.

Dang, dude. Got issues? or good drugs? (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Wow! The thread that wouldn't die. I find it both sad and yet amusing that many of those who oppose the "religious" or "Christian" make very angry responses. They accuse hate yet they spew as much. They accuse discrimination by CFA yet there is none, just an opinion. They seem to think that all people of faith are religious. There's a difference between faith and being "religious". Some people are both but not all. Guess I'm loving all the sweeping generalizations. And note....I'm not saying all are doing this, but many. I've also seen scripture twisted every which way but loose and taken way out of context. I'm not surprised by that. I see that all the time and, yes, sometimes within the church walls. My wish is that everyone would see that we are all flawed in one way or another (sinful, if you would) and pointing fingers, making accusations does nothing but make our society an unpeaceful one. But the bible also tells us there will always be wars and rumors of wars (Matt. 24:6....lol)

Question: Just because someone doesn't agree with homosexual marriage, does that make them a hatemonger?

No such thing as a "weed hangover". You play golf. It's a roller coaster ride unless you're some kind of PGA freak who's very consistent.

And you know this stuff because....?? Way to "pigeon hole" most Christians. If you got over your hangups and stereotypes and interacted with a few you might find a different viewpoint. Those who truly follow Christ tend to do what he teaches which is love God and love people. Unfortunately, the media feeds into the sweeping generalizations and sensationalizes the fanatics who sometimes get it wrong. And the sheep follow right along.

This whole thing has gotten way out of whack. It's completely media driven. And many of the opponents of CFA are hypocrites saying they should be tolerant.....as long as you believe as they do. There are many companies who's owners have similar beliefs to the Cathys but the people crying foul aren't boycotting those companies. I would be classified as a Christian (although I rarely refer to myself in that way due to the world's stereotype of the fanatics who make a bad name for the rest of us) but I saw no need for the "support" of CFA yesterday. I think it was unnecessary. Webb and Stewart...they're gonna do what they wanna do and should expect to hear rebuttal due to their celeb status. Frankly, I feel the whole thing is played.

The ProV balls spin more. So if you slice or hook the ball, they are going to slice or hook MORE. I played the NXT Tour for a long time and for the money, it's a great ball. Good feel, distance and durability. They make it in an extra spin model now. But I only play the Titleist balls when I find them anymore. I have switched to Bridgestone B-330 series.

I have some Louisville persimmon clubs circa early 80's. Driver, three wood and five wood. Mounted on the wall in my game room. All I remember is when you found the sweet spot, there wasn't a better feeling/sound in the world.

Selanee was suspect all along with her "nerves". Marcela was clearly the best player the entire show. Hope she can finally breakthrough and make a decent career of it. Probably won't but she's not a head case like many of the others. Like to see her succeed.

Maybe it was the edit but in the beginning of this show Selanee was always talking about her nerves. She has played well as of late but if she is all about her nerves in this last show, she will lose big.