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One of our local clubs is doing cheap November Fridays with food after. They all do deals around my area this time of year to try and keep people going out and spending money.
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Sending a beaver tail size divot up a guys back at 5 feet, with a driver. That's a trick shot !
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The good old long irons. I have had periods where they seem okay but it soon drifts off again.
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Had a moment of clarity this morning on the course...
Keith White replied to Fairway_CY's topic in Golf Talk
I think a swing thought can often eradicate a lot of bad things. You become more focussed because you have a specific thought and your head is dialled in so clean striking increases. That's my theory, the mind is cleaned and the swing is natural because your tuned in. Same thing happened on a recent lesson. Coach told me my hands were a little too far in front of the ball and he strengthened my grip a little. With my mind focussed on those two changes I wasn't thinking about anything else and I was completely clear in the mind, so I swung without any inhibition. If I could keep my striking like it was on that afternoon I would bi in single figures too. -
Older body, wider stance. Seems to be working.
Keith White replied to Keith White's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I guess we are all different. The slightly wider stance helps me keep the weight on the left and I don't over rotate, and I transition on the downswing far much better. -
We had this guy at our club, big loud fella, you knew when he was around ! One competition day it's pouring down and people are dropping out like flies, even the club said it was up to individuals if they played. One of our tee time three ball had already phoned and pulled out which left me with the fella, all geared up in full waterproofs. I suggested I wasn't keen either, most players were calling it off, so he throws a strop and storms to the Pro Shop to look for players. He clearly was desperate to play and didn't want anything to stop him. So I decided to do what I thought was the decent thing and said "Ok I'll get the gear out, let's go play" He stood waiting on the first tee and off we finally went. He was very poor company and it was soon apparent he was playing rubbish, it was obvious his game was not in good shape and not just because of the weather. So when we got to the ninth, after making all that fuss and I had come out, he decided he didn't want to carry on and suggested I see if the group behind would let me join them. And with that he walked off. Some people are very selfish.
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Jeepers, Phil should have been an aeronautical designer not a golfer !! It's hard to argue with big Phil, but I just can't see how either. Dry equals friction and wet equals less friction surely. Then again they say golf is a game of opposites so I wouldn't be that surprised if this is another one !
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I think some markers can get a bit silly, the idea is to use a discreet object just to do the job. I guess things change with the times. I like the combined pitch repairers that have a ball marker magnetically attached, although I don't stiff that many greens lol.
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Hope it goes well. I think you have made a wise choice.
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I think I may have been a little unclear, apologies, my days of video instruction are over but thank you. My instructor is very good and I guess I was more trying to point out the dangers of hours of online "do it like this" which some golfers consume by the ton ( I certainly did ) and it always seemed to send me off on tangents and extremes. I'm a happy 50 year old golfer and bogey golf will do me fine. I have a decent swing and my instructor is there to help me brush up a bit when I think he will help, and it does. Best regards.
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Correct, not a putting tip. You use the line at 2 o'clock off the tee.
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Video - the easy way out? So much is there in an instant and we can load the brain with a ton of conflicting info, all shot in 2D and subject to cameraman angles etc. I would say 90% of the tips I have watched have done me no good at all. The simple ones, like trying a five iron for a long chip and run have been useful. But the full swing instructions usually do more harm than good in my honest opinion.
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Sounds like a similar idea to one that a friend of mine suggested, and he had lessons from Ian Poulter. He said to point the putt line on the ball at 2 o'clock and position myself straight down the middle. Then hit through the putt line as if your trying to send the ball 2 o'clock to the right. It worked.
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My very first lesson. I was sitting on a golf club balcony absolutely shattered after low hooking the ball around an easy course for 115 strokes. No matter how much I played I could not hit it properly. It was time to stop playing or find a solution. I booked a starter set of three lessons and was immediately given a proper grip, and things started to click, with a good few hours on the range. I had a pal who started playing at the same time, he didn't get any lessons and soon gave up. It was the turning point for me.
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I never bet, apart from everyone sticking the same starter sum in the pot for a winner takes all day, and then it's only a fiver. I played with a guy once who wanted so many side bets it was a headache at the end trying to figure out who had won or lost what. Regardless of betting, the guy was wrong to walk around the ball. Cheating is always ugly in my opinion.
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Same thing happened to me, at my lesson this week the Pro said my grip was a bit strong. I smiled and said "you have told me that before" and to be honest I kinda knew anyway. I took my medicine and got the hands on better and yesterday at the range I was striping missiles down the line for fun. The Pro was honest about this, stating that's why an occasional lesson is good because it's human nature to slip off the good habits, and I know it does me good to have a "swing review" not to change it, just to tidy things back up. Think how much time most Pro's spend under the eyes of coaches, constantly analysing and keeping things on track. We don't have that luxury, but a relaxed refresher can be useful. I think the right coach is important, and you have to make it really clear what you want from your lesson, it's your money.
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What Would a PGA Tour Player Shoot at Your Home Course?
Keith White replied to dove694's topic in Golf Talk
My course is flat and pretty short, the greens are tricky but a pro would take that out. They would murder it. -
One of the problems with taking changes straight to the course is managing to keep the changes. We all want to play well and compete properly so once those changes start throwing in a few mad shots and poor holes the temptation to revert back or "dilute" the changes can creep in. It's strange isn't it, we often take lessons because we need to change but the minute it starts causing a problem we revert back to what we are trying to get away from. I always stick to the range and get some practiced in soon after the lesson and try to get confidence with the changes to understand them and see some results. I have "chickened out" on the course before, which has defeated the object of the lesson. Partly my own lack of commitment maybe but it's not easy to struggle for 4 hours and keep doing it, so I don't put myself under that pressure now. This has been my experience.
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Sorry, another chipper question
Keith White replied to PaddyMac's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Believe it or not I have a mate who hits a chipper from 100yrds and in. He loses a lot more than he realises in my opinion and it only works as he knows his home course very well. I agree that the putter grip is key for the really short ones, I find it easier to accelerate and make a swing because the putted 7 iron is a duller reaction off the face so you can commit a little more to it. Just be careful and make sure that your still going through the ball with the 7 iron or you can blade it, and if the ball is down in thick rough it probably won't work. Just experiment, it's a simple effective shot that just needs getting used to. -
The Pro is Sam Smith at The Bedford GC, and it's in Bedford UK. He has a Face Book page "Sam Smith Golf" He's a very good pro who embraces new ideas such as this, and aim point, and really tailors the sessions to the particular student. He actually touched on the aim point philosophy when we were on the green and the things we did were eye opening in regards how you read a green and where a ball breaks etc. Thanks to everyone for the comments so far, glad it's an enjoyable thread.
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I had a lesson booked yesterday, and I explained to the pro that I was pretty happy with my general swing and can't practice much these days due to physical injuries, so just wanted small general advice to keep my swing in the best shape it can be (no drastic changes please I'm too old now) So he grabbed a buggy and suggested an hour on the course. Great idea. The 2nd is a par 5 and I drove the ball to around 230yrds to the pin on a fairly generous fairway. The pro asked what I was going to hit, and as always I said " 4 hybrid". Safe club, and leave something fairly close in from there. He told me to hit the 3 wood. I explained that I never take 3 wood off the deck but he asked me to use it all the same. The shot stayed really low but it thundered off, crossed to the right of the fairway and settled about 30 yards off the green. He then explained the theory, strokes gained on fairway, which apparently is the favoured strategy for top golfers nowadays. It's all based around percentages, so although the 3 wood wasn't a great strike, I was close to target and my make percentage from where would be higher than if I had hit a safer club and was further back. Also, there was still a chanced that the safe option could have hooked or duffed so in his opinion, I'm not really taking that bigger risk with an open fairway that's relatively hazard free (bear that in mind, obviously the strategy would come into question if there was water, killer bunkers, fescue etc) I can see the logic. My old "play it safe, ball in play" strategy has it's place on risky holes, but on a friendly hole why not hit a 3 wood. I was a long way down after the shot, and a better strike could have been greenside or on. And I guess as I try it more often the strike should get better. So maybe I have been a tad too cautious, always trying to protect, when in fact I could gain strokes by knowing when to let loose with the bigger clubs a bit more often. It makes sense to me, would love to know peoples thoughts.
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Older body, wider stance. Seems to be working.
Keith White replied to Keith White's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
That's an interesting comment. I have always had a short swing and still achieve decent distance so I can relate to that. I beat the sway by starting the back swing really slow. I can get the club back and stay over the ball this way, it's all about not having an action that needs the hips to move to compensate the take away. A slow move does the trick for me. -
Anyone Play a Driving Iron?
Keith White replied to StefanUrkel's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
I've had an Adams Idea A12 in the 4 iron replacement for a few years now. I have a low swing path and that thing picks it up and throws it a long way which I find excellent for par 5s and the odd long par 3. Long par 4s into wind is another place when my lower ball flight on this hybrid really helps get through the wind. I have often toyed with the idea of a driving iron but the Adams works too well for me to start fiddling about. I think it all comes down to how I swing it, and everyone will have a different preference based on their swing and what they like to see in their shots. -
Long break, important round in few days, how to prepare?
Keith White replied to bones75's topic in Golf Talk
I had the same issue. My consistency was a problem and I just tried to work on the very basics on the swing and hoped the rest would follow. It was a bit messy, but here's a tip, I lost loads of shots on and around the green. If I was in that situation again, I would spend most of my time on a short game practice area, cos that's what was hurting my score the most.