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1. I always warm up before playing but warm up is always a little different depending on the group Im playing with and the course we are playing. I always stretch(this routine is the same every round), I always tke at least 10-15 full swings(5 wedge, 5 7i, and 5 driver) - some of these are on a range with balls other times its just swings with no range and then I try to chip and putt a little bit I know consistent warm up would help but I pay with different people and different courses and often times ride with others to the course so they don't always arrive in time to give time at the range 2. Even on the rounds I go to the range beforehand I tend to start slow. Played a round a few weeks ago and was hitting great on the range, got to the tee box and my swing was everywhere. Slices, hooks, nothing was consistent. 3. All of these scores were on different courses. Im blessed to live in Michigan with beautiful courses everywhere, so I play all over the place. As i said it is generally after I get frustrated and quit mentally keeping score and thinking about breaking 80 that I settle in and play well.

I'm honestly not sure what I am even looking for from starting this thread other than to just vent a little. A little background: I am an average golfer that has always been a stellar athlete. I have excelled in any sport I have taken up outside of golf. I assumed I would excel at golf but it has never happened. For the last 3-4 years I have bounced around a 14-16 handicap and never been able to put it together This year I have practiced more consistently and been able to play more frequently but still can't quite reach the breakthrough that I would like to reach. My last 3 rounds have been 47-38 - 85 48-39 -87 46-39- 85 It seems I always start slow and then play great(by my standard) on the back 9. I think I start each round thinking this is it I've turned the corner and can play consistent golf. Then after blowing up a few holes I stop caring about my score and my golf gets much better. Such a stupid mental block As I said I'm not even sure what this post/rant is about other than the frustration of feeling like I'm so close but realizing I am yet so very far away.

Shot an 83 - 44-39 I started slow and double bogeyed an easy par 3. Then I settled in and found a groove. Driver was straight, irons were middle of the green. Just couldn't get a birdie putt to drop on the back

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It was a 9 hole round 3 weeks ago 1st hole - triple bogey 2nd hole - double bogey 3rd hole - double bogey 4th hole - bogey 5,6,7,8,9 - I played in 1 under.

Yes. If i came to a hole like that, I would simply skip the hole as to avoid the potential problem. The argument has nothing to do with whether a home owner should take precautions to protect their property. The question is simply is a golfer responsible for where they hit there ball. The answer to me is simple

No your distinction just makes no sense. The reality is that it doesn't matter what is off of golf course property or how far off golf course property it is. As a golfer you have a responsibility to keep your ball on the course. if you do not do so you are responsible. IT IS YOUR BALL, THAT YOU HIT. THEREFORE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE It is a simple concept

So if I knowingly drive my car by it knowing a ball could hit it is my fault? Either a golfer is responsible for where there golf ball goes or they are not. It really is that simple

No it doesn't. Both are a case of a wayward golf ball, hit off golf course property. Not sure how its any different at all

Why is it different? I bought a house next to your kids, just like someone else bought a house by a golf course. Why does the one at the golf course have to assume risk, but the one with a house by kids doesn't? Is there not an assumed risk that a kid might act like a kid

What does the homeowner have to be responsible for? They did not break the window. The homeowner is not responsible for your golf ball and where it goes. You are playing a golf course which means you are to be on the course, if you can't keep your ball within the bounds of the course that is not a homeowners responsibility, it is yours and yours alone

So I am responsible for where my car goes and what it does, but not for where my golf ball goes and what it does? If being close to a golf course makes me responsible for protecting my home with nets or something else, then why is it not my responsibility to protect my car in a parking lot? Something here doesn't add up. Why in one case am I responsible and not in the other? The reality is the golfer hit his/her golf ball, therefore they are responsible for where his/her golf ball goes.In the same as a driver I am responsible for my car, as a dog owner I am responsible for my dog, as a gun owner I am responsible for my gun I asked it earlier in the thread but it went ignored If I live by a dog park and someone breaks my window throwing a ball for the dog while playing fetch, is it my fault for living by a dog park?

Of the courses listed that I have played here are my rankings Yarrow Ravines Hawkshead the Medalist Angels Crossing Thornapple Pointe But you are over an hour from New Buffalo at Yarrow, The Medalist, Thornapple Pointe, and Angels crossing More information would be helpful. Are you basing your stay out of new buffalo? Are you looking for 2 courses on the same day? Separate days? If looking for 2 courses same day an hour from New Buffalo, I would do Ravines and Hawkshead Edit: Wanted to add I have heard nothing but good things about Harbor Shores, so that is probably worth a play.. I just recommended Hawkshead and Ravines because I have played both of them and they are close to each other. Also Harbor Shores will run at your limit of 100 per person

Lets try this I build a house next to a dog park One day a man is playing fetch with his dog at the dog park. His throw of the ball goes a little wild, flys into my property, hits the window of my house and breaks it. Who is responsible?

Maybe this will help explain it. It is not a new concept, the old course at St. Andrews use to be able to be played in reverse http://www.golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/jeremy-glenn-the-reverse-old-course/

You guys are not understanding the concept, it is not just a different order of the same 18 holes It is hard to explain this: Imagine if you will a hole with 18 greens and 36 tee boxes... One day you play from the 18 tee boxes going one direction the next day you play in the opposite direction from the 18 other tee boxes So the greens are the same but the approaches, the challenges will all be different because it will be from the complete opposite direction

I am a young guy and agree with you completely I remember playing at a course when I first started golfing that had houses all along the course. Now I was a beginner with a wicked slice, so on several holes I simply didn't play a tee shot and dropped out in the fairway where I felt comfortable. After the round I told the people who invited me thanks for the invitation but I won't play at a course this tight until I can drive the ball much better. I took personal responsibility and made decisions that would take the danger of hitting houses out of play.

Imagine for a second You have someone who walks the same road 3 times a day for excercise. They have lived there for 50 years and it is their daily routine to walk this road morning, noon, and evening. Then you have a visitor from out of town driving down the road, it is their first time driving the road and they come to a blind curve a little to fast and veer on to the shoulder hitting the walker.. Who is responsible? Is it the walker who has walked that blind curve hundreds of time and didn't take precautions? Or is it the driver who has only been in that situation one time? I would hope we would all agree it is the driver who is responsible to keep his car on the boundaries of the road. In the same way a golfer has the responsibility to keep his ball on the boundaries of the course

It is funny how different people can view things I would say the golfer not paying for the damage is a huge swipe against personal responsibility. The Golfer hit the shot, he knows the bounds of the golf course and it is his responsibility to keep his ball on the course. If he is not capable of doing that he does not need to play a course that is so tight with houses bordering it.

Forest Dunes right now is widely considered one of the best courses in Michigan. Unfortunately it is in the middle of no where so its not a destination spot. To make it more of a destination they are adding another 18 holes. But these 18 holes will actually be a new 36 holes. One day it will play going one direction as 18 holes and the next day it will play in reverse as a new 18

I have played and really enjoy it, but I have been playing soccer since I could kick a ball.

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