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MRR

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  1. Well, I meant "a couple stalls away", just so the child wouldn't have the nervousness of "try to impress dad" on top of "golf is hard and I'm not hitting the ball". I always learned better from people other than my parents, even if the "teacher" wasn't as skilled as them. But, yeah, I agree. Like I said, I just hate to see something like @DrvFrShow's piano career happen due to a well-meaning parent.
  2. But not some random guy at the range? Good, I'll cling fast to my social anxiety and continue to not talk to strangers while hoping he gets his kid a lesson or two. The father's golfing was fine, but he wasn't teaching his son any fundamentals. The poor child had the club gripped like he was going to beat someone with a stick, swung with all his weight, kept his arms bent, and had the clubhead well past his hands at "impact". Father's response was to have him tee it up higher and mentioned something about a wrist. Every time I see this, I am reminded of when I was at the range with my dad and I was slicing every shot. His response was "my instructor told me to pull my right leg back when that happens, so try that". Possibly sound advice, but being told how to hold the club and to stop swinging outside-in with an open face would have helped me fix my swing problems early on instead of compensating for defects that were otherwise curable. That's the issue. No basic grip was taught and I saw a whole lot more frustration than fun. But I may have been projecting. I saw a father who enjoys golf enough that he wants to share it with his son, but a son who could learn to hate the sport because he has no foundation to build upon. Anyway, ranting done.
  3. You're lucky. Most would take the money first.
  4. I was at the range last night and witnessed, once again, a great disservice to golf. A father brought his young son to the range and began to "teach" him golf. It went exactly the way it did when my father attempted to teach me at that age. 1) Father who knows how to play golf puts a club his son's hand and sort of shows him how to grip it. 2) Son puts a ball on the ground and swings his whole body at the ball. 3) After ten swings, five balls go in the direction of "something other than directly behind the golfer" 4) Father comes back over and offers other sage advice. 5) Repeat step 3 (maybe six balls go somewhere closer to the field) 6) Father has son switch to a driver. 7) Son tees up the ball about one inch. 8) Repeat step 3 (now only two out of ten go forward). All this gave me a great disdain for golf for at least ten years when it happened with me. A well meaning parent tried to impart too much information on the child and never imparted the basic information. It's perfectly understandable, since the parent is a good enough golfer that he doesn't even consciously remember the basics, but it makes it so the child never gets the foundation to learn. Fast forward a couple months and the son will still not hit anything and the father will not understand why, since he's been teaching him for over 60 days. As bad as I am (or because I'm so bad) I still know and stress the basics. I would have gladly taken the child to a separate area (so the burden of trying to impress dad is gone) and at least helped the child learn how to hit a teed up ball with a 7 iron straight for 30 yards. I also assume that it would be very creepy for me to offer such a thing.
  5. Not only are you hitting the sweet spot, but a relaxed swing like that is probably more efficiently transferring your back/shoulder/arm power through relaxed hands into the clubhead. Swing a whip as hard as you can, and you just look like a fool. Flip is casually and correctly and the tip goes fast enough to break the sound barrier. Now that you have had a taste at a smoother and easier swing, you can start to become more consistent with those movements and correctly add more speed in the future. Frankly, with your posted index, I'm surprised this is new to you. I look forward to hearing how your game improves now.
  6. How can one possibly improve without homework? My instructor last year gave me plenty of homework. Sadly, my schedule caused me to need to have my few lessons over too short a period and to not do all the homework. It was a great disservice to both my attempts to improve and my instructor's time. In all honesty, the actual instructions did not give me a whole lot of information that I didn't already know from all my reading and online research. He merely said things in different ways and applied it differently. This very vital assistance did very little for me at the time of the lesson, but the after-lesson drills and spending the next days/weeks/months considering new ways to look at the information I've had for years was a great help. An instructor who does not give the student homework (specifically tailored to that student's issues) is nothing more than a 20 page audiobook. And I don't think anyone here is going to suggest that one can become a great golfer by just reading the same 20 pages over and over.
  7. My recollection of bags with this well (I don't care for them, so I never looked closely) was that the bags generally have 14 slots AND a well. That leaves 15 spots for 14 clubs. Did the wells start out as places for umbrellas, but people used it for putters instead?
  8. Safe to say it's not overly important on a single shot, but vital for several shots to reflect a trend for which one can adjust?
  9. Could one of you good golfers explain why this is important? I understand enjoying feeling a great shot, but I do not see how immediate feedback help you. The ball has already left the face of the club and there is nothing you can do at that point to correct any mistakes. Is it purely a practice thing, so you train your muscles to swing correctly?
  10. MRR

    dress code

    Frankly, I'm starting to think that dress codes have become necessary since people refuse to dress appropriately on their own. Defendants showing up to court in shorts and shirts with the sleeves cut off is indicative of a problem. A golf course doesn't need to be quite so formal, though. I have pretty minimal views of what is "respectful" on a golf course. I personally generally wear long pants (sometimes shorts) and a collared shirt, but that's probably due to advances in textiles. When I was younger, I wore jeans shorts and tee shirts to the local muni because that's what I had that would be remotely comfortable. Since my friends and I were pretty much the only ones on the course one particular day when our school was the only one not having classes, we decided to take our shirts off and get a tan while golfing. We were reprimanded by an employee and told to put them back I. Looking back, I think this was the correct thing to do. We were just trying to get tans, not be disrespectful, but I think the correction was warranted. I think a Course has the right to apply and enforce a dress code. I'd hope that they relax it a bit if a visitor were unaware of it when first playing. If a course does not want a dress code, good for them. If you think the clientele at your local course is dressed in appropriately, speak with an employee about how you think people should be dressed, state that you will not patronize a place that allows such horrible cretins to breathe the same air as you, and then do not return. The free market will decide if your business was important enough for them to force your opinions on others.
  11. In this scenario, he's not trying to get people to help him get to market, he's seeing if there is enough of a demand to warrant publishing and printing a new book
  12. How in the hell is he planning on adding even more pages to his Putting Bible? If he really wants money, I'd pay to have him personally come to my house to tear all the fluff out of his Short Game Bible and leave me with a twenty-page masterpiece. I'll throw in a six-pack if he replaces all the photos of himself with someone thin enough to actually show proper positioning.
  13. I didn't say it couldn't be hidden. However, I WILL say that. Enforcement is just as easy as an official taking a quick look through the books. Notes like that are rather obvious. My point is that it wouldn't be easy to hide such a thing (EDIT: and still be able to QUICKLY and QUIETLY use it) in a tournament. People already spend quite a while looking at the sheets when they are large and as easy to read as possible. Trying to translate a code while the cameras are on you will be picked up very easily. And I'm pretty sure such a violation will be more than a two- or four-stroke penalty. That's a DQ, fine, ban sort of cheat.
  14. I still see absolutely nothing in the press release that outlaws the materials themselves. It appears to only outlaw their use during the round. Print, read, research, craft, publish all the materials you want. Just don't break them out while actually golfing. Some places call that studying and learning. I agree about "hiding the information". But I cannot see how that information could be hidden in such a way that it could be accessed easily and quickly enough to not be noticed.
  15. Pretty sure it's just the result of a consistent swing. If he always swings so that the he is perfectly centered about an inch inside his left foot, then the path will be heading to the right for all his irons and woods, but coming back left for the driver when the ball is teed up and placed farther forward.
  16. Well, you ARE an instructor. I'd bet even money that you can do AimPoint faster than half the pros.
  17. I think someone risked that this past weekend. An LPGA player marked from the side and picked up her ball. She apparently placed it correctly, but coming in from the wrong angle can certainly cause someone to place the marker somewhere other than "directly behind the ball". I like Iacas's point about noting which part of the marker points to the ball. Makes a ton of sense.
  18. If the books make their job better, but access to the books favors a certain type of player (those with enough money or sponsors to purchase said books), then there could be an issue. If they are available to all as part of entry, then I wholeheartedly agree. There also comes a point where too much assistance takes away from the game (Like the Czervik's periscope putter). I don't think these books reach that point, but I can see why others may feel differently. Isn't there a place that does that? No markers, no rangefinders allowed, even the flags are replaced with wicker baskets so the golfer cannot judge wind? My understanding of the rule is that written material wouldn't be allowed on the course (machine- or hand-made). Or are you suggesting that even referencing these books prior to play would be disallowed? THAT Would certainly be difficult to enforce.
  19. Thank you for increasing my knowledge.
  20. From my limited understanding.... Aimpoint might be slower (as that system seems to involve looking through many charts and doing calculations that can take time if you are not used to it) but Aimpoint Express is quite fast, since the golfer just measures slope at the midpoint and does some other brief greens reading.
  21. Do you think it has slowed your play? I realize the answer to that question is not the point of the original post (since that is about potentially unfair "outside" assistance), but I am curious.
  22. Correct use of materials like this should speed up play, since all the required information is readily available. But, I can see how golfers use it as a crutch and second-guess themselves so much that it takes longer. It also makes it a "pay for play" type thing where golfers more able to spend the money for materials get a boost. If they want to do away with it, I think it's easy; no written materials on the course. They can do all the prep work they want, but they cannot physically reference anything after they take to the course.
  23. My first thought when reading the original post was "Aimpoint Express will be seen a lot more". Similarly, my understanding of reading is that the slope right around the hole is the most important. I would think that the golfer/caddie could very easily remember that much for each hole, at least. But I might be expecting too much when I picture a caddie or golfer going out each morning to see where the cup is placed and mentally mapping out preferred shots for the day.
  24. Has there been any study on how much using this material actually slows a game down? I would have thought that this much prep work both speeds up the reading process (there is already a decent idea of slope and direction) and (assuming the powers that be are correct) results in fewer putts, thus requiring fewer times to need to read greens. Has anyone here used such a chart to their benefit?
  25. Fine, then change my above scenario so that Woods left the area but Mickelson hadn't. My main concern stands; golfers could potentially be treated differently depending on when a rules official feels like telling them about a discovered infraction. That's my only concern. If they both get four or both get six strokes in penalties is fine. But it being possible for one to get four and one to get six for the same initial action is prima facie unfair. It certainly is contrived and the odds are low. But leaving the execution of rules up to the benevolence of the enforcer is the hallmark of a bad rule.
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