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We ll is short and crooked better than long and crooked?

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Is 10 yards crooked better than 50 yards crooked?
Graduated Rough Theory states yes.

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Yes, and start hitting a man's club like the #2 player in the world should be. Can't hate on Phil for trying something different.... but it ain't working.

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Yep, he needs to pull the driver out. If he's going to be missing the 3 wood then he might as well miss the driver further down the hole then he is with this 3 wood. That was killing him today, he had to scramble for everything he got out of his round. For as bad as he was playing, he ended up with a decent score. He's going to have to get it together tomorrow big time, if he does, he'll go really low. His putter and wedges are really solid this week.
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That's just it, if it isn't working - CHANGE. That's the part I don't understand. I don't fault him for going 3w as he is long with it but if he can't work the club the way he wants to stay out of the lettuce, then why not see if you can get the driver working?

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Well, he's taking home a check that probably will be worth more than your annual salary.
He must be doing something right.

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Well, he's taking home a check that probably will be worth more than your annual salary.

That's neither here nor there. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic either. I can also guarantee that Phil hasn't come clost to doing anything as meaningful as I have either (US Navy intelligence veteran who has briefed heads of state about crisis situations) but this is really about Phil and if he should carry the long stick.

ETA: We all know golfers that buy things based on WITB of their favorite guy. Does Phil refusing to use his driver on a course where everone else is, look bad for Callaway? I mean look at it from Callaway's perspective. The driver is the bragging stick. Your #1 guy isn't using it on one of the longest courses in USGA Open golf history because he feels the 3W gives him better control and he is still putting it into the hay field? By implication that means the driver is really wild. Then watch other golfers use their drivers to great results. I mean part of the Callaway's marketing department has to cringe just a little.

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That's neither here nor there. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic either. I can also guarantee that Phil hasn't come clost to doing anything as meaningful as I have either (US Navy intelligence veteran who has briefed heads of state about crisis situations) but this is really about Phil and if he should carry the long stick.

Maybe the player is Phil and he's wild?

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Maybe the player is Phil and he's wild?

That's the most likely answer and the one I believe but I was talking more of a marketing thing. I know Callaway builds some great stuff, you know that but what about the kid that has more money than brains - what's he thinking?

I guarantee you Nike has sold a ton of equipment of Tiger's talent and not their technology (not saying Nike is crap - just that perception plays a ton in purchasing decisions of many people)

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The reason it's not working is because he is hitting his 3 wood too hard, probably foolishly trying to keep up with Adam and Tiger. If you don't believe me that he is trying to hit it too hard, watch how much hook he tries to get on the ball.

The idea would work really well if he focused on hitting fairways with the club and not distance.

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For sale Callaway driver. Must sell this great driver as I can not control it and I fear that it is
way to long for the golf course I am currently playing. This pro line Callaway driver is like new, it
has only been hit a few times on the driving range. I am using my three wood off the tees instead
as I need the control and not the distance. Please call or send a text to Lefty 1-800-bad-idea.

PS. I will throw in the matching three wood also because I can not control it either. It shows
heavy use but you are getting two clubs for the price of one. Please call because I bet I am going
to need the money after this weekend.

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The reason it's not working is because he is hitting his 3 wood too hard, probably foolishly trying to keep up with Adam and Tiger. If you don't believe me that he is trying to hit it too hard, watch how much hook he tries to get on the ball.

Phil has 2 gears driver or 2wood. Swing hard and swing harder. He's swinging like he always does off the tee, driver/2wood he'll get the same crappy results.

The decision to replace a driver with a 2wood was ultimately a rediculous one. He was one of my picks to win before i knew he was making this move. Simply put, his brains to big for his head.. Pelz is feeding him rediculous sh*t like you need 5 wedges, and short game is everything. Its the most important part of the game but its not "everything". Him being the 'i can do anything better than you' guy.. he wants to show everyone he can try something no ones ever done and win the biggest tournament in golf doing it. There's no doubt in my mind Phil would be under par if he had a driver in his bag this week. Put it back in play before its too late.. we all know he wont though.

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Well, he's taking home a check that probably will be worth more than your annual salary.

After Phil finishes his round on Sunday, he grabs the cell phone and quickly dials Amy.

"DEAR!, guess what....23rd place, $98,000 smackers!!!, It's Capital Grill for us tonight!" Amy to Phil... "That's great dear, I know you wanted to stick it to Tiger by trying to keep up with him off the tee with your "3 wood"...... And also I think you made more in 4 days than those geeks on the Sandtrap forum take home all year!"

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No, he shouldn't. It's not the distance that is killing him, it's the control. Are you guys saying he has more control with the driver? This is Phil we are talking about here! He obviously has a plan and an idea of what he wants to do, he just needs to quit farting around and do it.

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"DEAR!, guess what....23rd place, $98,000 smackers!!!, It's Capital Grill for us tonight!"

Yep he is making some huge money - but consider Big Brown blew it (you know Phil was laying some $$ on that), he is on his home course (prob flew everone he ever knew in to watch him win "his" open) and gas is now over 4 bucks a gallon, what do you think he spent this week? Guessing it is also more than us geeks on the Sandtrap. Again the question wasn't was Phil simply farting around to collect a check but should he be using his driver considering the 3 wood wasn't working all that well for him.

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Yes, and start hitting a man's club like the #2 player in the world should be. Can't hate on Phil for trying something different.... but it ain't working.

It isn't working. Put the driver back in.

What I find interesting is that most guys would have left the driver in the bag, and just chosen not to hit it. Phil knows that he can't help himself, so he literally had to leave it out. Tiger had the driver in his bag at Hoylake (he even hit it - ONCE), but has the mental strength to make a game plan and stick to it. Phil doesn't have that mental strength - he literally has to remove the opportunity for himself to be an idiot in order to not be an idiot. You don't need FIVE wedges. The times you might need a 64 degree wedge you could open your 60 up. Or leave the 60 out and open up a 56 a little. Or whatever. So yeah, Phil should go with the driver. The 3W isn't working and unless he "fixes" something on the range that will make it start working, you may as well just put a "control" swing on a driver rather than a "I want it to go far" swing on a 3W.

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Amen to this. On some of these misses, he's been way left and in the 2nd cut. Had he been using his driver, he would have been in trees. Secondly, his lack of driver is not the reason why he's hitting poor iron shots. Perfect lie from the sand and he tries a bump and run shot? Hitting garbage shots, (for him at least) on two Par 3s? His short game is supposed to be a strength and he's missing his spots. What about the two birdie putts that he missed and should have made?

Hit some fairways and the questions disappear. I'm still laughing at how a guy can hit a 3W 300 yards and announcers are calling for a driver.

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