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I hit the ball great today comparing that to my normal practices.  I really worked on getting a deep takeaway to promote and inside to out downswing.  I have a tendency to muscle the ball, throwing my spine angle off resulting in an over-the-top downswing.

Once at the top of my backswing, I concentrated on maintaining my spine angle and just rotating my shoulders, really trying to get my right shoulder where my left shoulder was at the transition. (Righty)  It felt like trying to throw a bowling ball.

The best way I can describe it is "effortless power",  getting the club on plane during the downswing really works wonders,

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Originally Posted by Titleist72

I hit the ball great today comparing that to my normal practices.  I really worked on getting a deep takeaway to promote and inside to out downswing.  I have a tendency to muscle the ball, throwing my spine angle off resulting in an over-the-top downswing.

Once at the top of my backswing, I concentrated on maintaining my spine angle and just rotating my shoulders, really trying to get my right shoulder where my left shoulder was at the transition. (Righty)  It felt like trying to throw a bowling ball.

The best way I can describe it is "effortless power",  getting the club on plane during the downswing really works wonders,



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Congrats - it worked great for me for one round - i havent been able to find any consistency since

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Originally Posted by GodIsStevePerry

An in-to-out swing is something that I am really trying to work on right now.  Any tips or drills to help with this?


What i really focused on was maintaining my spine angle at the beginning of my transition and just trying to turn my shoulders on that angle while keeping everything quiet until reaching parallel.  It was really weird, it felt just like i was bowling when swung it right.

Sorry for being redundant, still really pumped up...

Lets see, I had a lesson on Saturday and did these 2 drills:

(1)   Line up a ball (or a tee) ~3' behind your ball lined up on your target line.  Then place another tee about 4' in front and about 2' to the right..(for a righty)

This is a very basic drill for getting an over-the-top player to start swinging from the inside.... Take a 3/4 swing and hit your ball while staying inside of the back ball, also try to swing out towards the front right ball.

(2)   3 ball drill-

Line up three balls at a ~30 degree angle facing your target.. (If you have a right triangle with an angle of 30 degree angle b/w the adjacent side and the hypotenuse) Does that make sense??  The inside ball will be in front and the outside ball will be back.. Try to hit the middle ball.  If you miss watch out! You might shank the front-left ball into your chin!

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Originally Posted by meenman

Congrats - it worked great for me for one round - i havent been able to find any consistency since



Yeah, golf is a cruel mistress.. Your skill will leave you whenever it wants...

How'd that one great wound turn out?

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Originally Posted by Titleist72

What i really focused on was maintaining my spine angle at the beginning of my transition and just trying to turn my shoulders on that angle while keeping everything quiet until reaching parallel.  It was really weird, it felt just like i was bowling when swung it right.

Sorry for being redundant, still really pumped up...

Lets see, I had a lesson on Saturday and did these 2 drills:

(1)   Line up a ball (or a tee) ~3' behind your ball lined up on your target line.  Then place another tee about 4' in front and about 2' to the right..(for a righty)

This is a very basic drill for getting an over-the-top player to start swinging from the inside.... Take a 3/4 swing and hit your ball while staying inside of the back ball, also try to swing out towards the front right ball.

(2)   3 ball drill-

Line up three balls at a ~30 degree angle facing your target.. (If you have a right triangle with an angle of 30 degree angle b/w the adjacent side and the hypotenuse) Does that make sense??  The inside ball will be in front and the outside ball will be back.. Try to hit the middle ball.  If you miss watch out! You might shank the front-left ball into your chin!

Message me if I was too unclear

Thank you for the explanation of those drills! I am definitely going to give them a try.

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Originally Posted by Titleist72

What i really focused on was maintaining my spine angle at the beginning of my transition and just trying to turn my shoulders on that angle while keeping everything quiet until reaching parallel.  It was really weird, it felt just like i was bowling when swung it right.

Sorry for being redundant, still really pumped up...

Lets see, I had a lesson on Saturday and did these 2 drills:

(1)   Line up a ball (or a tee) ~3' behind your ball lined up on your target line.  Then place another tee about 4' in front and about 2' to the right..(for a righty)

This is a very basic drill for getting an over-the-top player to start swinging from the inside.... Take a 3/4 swing and hit your ball while staying inside of the back ball, also try to swing out towards the front right ball.

(2)   3 ball drill-

Line up three balls at a ~30 degree angle facing your target.. (If you have a right triangle with an angle of 30 degree angle b/w the adjacent side and the hypotenuse) Does that make sense??  The inside ball will be in front and the outside ball will be back.. Try to hit the middle ball.  If you miss watch out! You might shank the front-left ball into your chin!

Message me if I was too unclear



I tried putting a tee a few inches behind the  ball and tried swinging inside it.  This caused me to just hit the ball to the right.  Any pointers on that issue?

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If you put the tee too close behind the ball it might defeat the purpose of the drill, improving your plane.. With the tee further back it would help you swing from the inside sooner.

Ball going to the right?  Could it be an open club face?

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I've been practicing this movement as well.

I've been basically taking my left shoulder and pulling it down/towards the ball and then across the ground directly behind the ball - it encourages the hip rotation and helps prevent the steep downswing. My amount of heel shanks has decreased tremendously.

It helps to remember to keep your body weight on the balls of the feet to encourage the movement - shoulder setup is also important (keeping right shoulder lower than left at address).

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The way i understand it is that you need to come from the inside but have you shoulders square at impact (to the target) I can still hit a draw that starts straight with a divot pointing right because my shoulders are square. To do this I have my shoulders titled (right shoulder below left) at impact. The way I achieve this is to start the backswing with my hips (bumping them forward slightly) that slots my right shoulder down and I can really fire from there. That's the swing thought I have been using recently and shot a 73 yesterday...not bad for a 15 hcp! Starting the downing with the hips is essential to me. That's just how I make it work would be glad for one of the pros to correct me as I don't know anything for certain :-)
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Originally Posted by Lord Caldlow

It helps to remember to keep your body weight on the balls of the feet to encourage the movement - shoulder setup is also important (keeping right shoulder lower than left at address).

Those are key for me as well - Balance on balls of feet, just enough axis tilt and one i would like to add is hands/arms under shoulder if you tend to layoff too much in backswing.

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Originally Posted by Titleist72

I hit the ball great today comparing that to my normal practices.  I really worked on getting a deep takeaway to promote and inside to out downswing.  I have a tendency to muscle the ball, throwing my spine angle off resulting in an over-the-top downswing.

Once at the top of my backswing, I concentrated on maintaining my spine angle and just rotating my shoulders, really trying to get my right shoulder where my left shoulder was at the transition. (Righty)  It felt like trying to throw a bowling ball.

The best way I can describe it is "effortless power",  getting the club on plane during the downswing really works wonders,

Can you go into a little more detail on the bolded part, so when you mean transition do you mean where the left shoulder was at the end of your backswing (where it's been completely turned)?

Thanks in advance.

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