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I watched it and have a few thoughts. 

1) They began and ended with the idea of why GEARs will be around for a while as is versus marker-less 3D, affordable apps. They talked about why to use pro swings to help people get better. They covered a few specific examples like external shoulder rotation and side bend. They responded to comments made about AMG, but the video was mostly about using data, with knowing the SD (standard deviation) and being as specific as possible.

2) I watch and learn about swing and the game as a person wanting to know as much as I can, so that I can help my students. As they said, @iacassays, and I say, we teach feels not data. I want to use as much data as I can to ensure I’m on a good track. But the students don’t see that, unless I’m pointing to something specific.

My students are largely beginner to intermediate golfers which are seniors, juniors and ladies. If I were to categorize further into someone wanting to be somewhat competitive versus not, 80% are not. The other 20% want to move up the chain in men’s club or similar. Most only want to take lessons so far that they have fun and “don’t make a fool of themselves” on the course.

I would love to have GEARs, force plates, swing catalyst, or something similar. But, my customer base, as is, would not support such an investment. Maybe one day.  But, maybe having a cheap marker-less system could be a temporary solution and/or to build into something better.  Even if they are inaccurate to some degree, they could be within the SD of pro swings on a GEARs system. Even if to show me a trend, I still have full ball flight, LMs, and video to support certain data points.

For what technology to use, it all depends on the instructor and the student.

3) The video mentioned that amateur swings can often be more physically demanding than pro swings. One of the main reactions I look for when working on something, is whether it felt easier in the end, physically. They feel less tired after an hour on the range than 30min using their swing before. 

4) External rotation is an interesting topic. So many factors go into whether/how far around we should get our hands at p4. But I like their explanation of shallowing.

Edit: I also should mention, GEARs is expensive. It is unreasonable for me to charge what I think I’d need to, based on my customer base. 

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