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617 likes, 10 comments - mytpi on February 2, 2026: "Why test the Toe Touch if you don’t do it in your golf swing? Because it reveals how well you can hip hinge, a foundational movement for posture in golf. When...

That's the original link… here's my YouTube copy of the same video:

Here's what a… let's go with "knowledgeable" friend said to me about this video:

Why on earth would you need to test someone's ability to touch their toes to see if they have the physical capability to get into a good set up position? At the beginning of the video Greg demonstrates the hip hinge movement he wants, just see if they can do that. No toe touching required!

He also said they aren't interested in whether a golfer can actually touch their toes, he's trying to see how they hinge from their hips. This doesn't make any sense, as in their screening the criteria is pass or fail for touching toes, there's no scoring for how the person did it, other than that they didn't bend their knees… which is again moronic because you can bend your knees in the swing!

The toe touch isn't a hip hinge test either: it's a hip hinge and spinal flexion test. Everyone that touches their does does so with a combo of both. It's a perfect example of a screening being a distraction rather than additive.

Sure, having good mobility is better than not, but how can a toe touch be informative of the ability to get into a good setup? You can just ask the golfer to set up and see if they can do what you want!

I think it's interesting how many PGA Tour players fail at the TPI tests.

P.S. The Toe Touch test has always been, AFAIK, about the hamstrings. Tight hamstrings = gonna early extend. (But even that's not a truth.)

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Yea, that test is strange. Especially when he starts talking about hip hinge at set up. 

I think you could do an assortment of hip mobility test to determine if they can hinge correctly. Ask them, hey are your hamstrings tight when you get into the set up. Can you actually hinge at the hips. 

I think the hamstring test is kind of pointless. 

 

 

 

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I watched Kolby Tullier with Joey D do some pretty good tests and none of them were toe touches.  He did a hip bridge test to see if your glutes were firing or if you were using your hamstrings or quads instead. 

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