just got my zb's and im very sad...

[polodinks]

well i sold my ap1's and got the zbs...... bought them used off ebay for $450..... has 11k feedback has a golf store and very reputable..... ad said VERY GOOD COND 5 round only on them bought them since he claimed how nice they were and only had 5 rounds..... got them in the mail this morning and he had golf pride grips that are green..... look like crap imo and the faces dont have a satin finish in the middle.... i was all exited to go play them today but contimplating on reselling them and taking a huge loss heres a couple pics of them tell me what you guys think if they are bad cond......

CANT SEE THE CHATTER TOO WELL IN THIS PIC BUT ITS THERE




THIS IS THE 7 IRON THE MOST USED CLUB IN THIS SET







Last thing..... does that look like they have 5 rounds on them?

or am i being too nitpicky and shut-up and play them.....

and about how much life you guys think are left in them?

sorry for such a long post

[erikpmort]

that sucks sorry bro. pictures are so valuable.

i'm surprised you got zb's with a 17 handicap. maybe that isn't current? what the heck i know i'd like a pair just to try.

[rebby]

That sucks! Can you simply return them?

[polodinks]

nope cant return them..... his words when i asked for a refund was "HMM i bought them in sarasota at edwin watts and played them 4 times"..... i cant understand why he would change brand new titleist grips for the golf prides..... and 2 if thats 4 rounds i guess his rounds are 72 hole rounds..... are they worth keeping?

[rebby]

nope cant return them..... his words when i asked for a refund was "HMM i bought them in sarasota at edwin watts and played them 4 times"..... i cant understand why he would change brand new titleist grips for the golf prides..... and 2 if thats 4 rounds i guess his rounds are 72 hole rounds..... are they worth keeping?

I don't see why they wouldn't be worth keeping/playing. I've played irons that were beat up far worse than those. I can't tell real well from the pics but they sure look like they'd be perfectly functional. From the sounds of it, you may want to regrip them though.

Has a golf store? Very reputable? I'd probably push to return them since it doesn't sound like they were accurately described. Not that it would make any difference but can you post a link to the auction?

[polodinks]

yeah heres the auction link..... they ended and no one bought them so i asked him i want them and i asked how clean are they to be "VERY GOOD COND" he said you wont be dissapointed..... and hes about 200 miles from me so shipping was alot cheaper..... i got them for $450 shipped

Link

http://cgi.ebay.com/08-Titleist-Z-B-...QQcmdZViewItem

[tjy355]

Looks like that guy sells lots of golf clubs. Doubtful that he bought them new. Your pics aren't too good either but they definitely look more used than 5 rounds, the changed grips kinda give that away. "very good" condition is subjective. Have no idea if they are worth $450. I would pursue a return.

Couple of tips:

- For that kind of money, you should insist on more and better closeup photos.

- When taking your own close up photos - use the macro function (button with the "flower" on it - most digi cams have that) and strong available light (no flash).

[Righty to Lefty]

[QUOTE=tjy355;215882]Your pics aren't too good either but they definitely look more used than 5 rounds, the changed grips kinda give that away.
Couple of tips:

- For that kind of money, you should insist on more and better closeup photos. QUOTE]

The clubs do look like they have been used for more than 5 rounds. I bought some 2005 Callaway X Tours and they had that same kind of wear in the middle of each club but it didn't effect the performance at all and that coating will wear off anyway so I didn't think it was that big of a deal. More importantly is the condition of the grooves. Are they are all in good shape or do any of them have knicks or gouges in the face which would be a deal breaker for me? I have big hands but my measurements for irons are Standard so I can buy clubs pretty much off the rack and they have those standard grips on them that make my hands cramp up so I cut them off right away for midsize so that isn't quite the giveaway that you may think. If he bought the irons new the grips should have been fitted to him with stock Titleist grips but he could have bought them off the rack and that not been an option. However if the grips are the same standard size that would have come with them new then that would likely prove they have more rounds in them than disclosed. Those clubs MSRP is about 900-1000 bucks if I'm not mistaken so if they are structurally sound I would roll with em and you'll forget about that if they are good clubs.

[Lefty731PM]

These clubs look fine to me. Maybe they've played more than 5 rounds, but after you've played 50 rounds with them, what do you think they'll look like anyway? As long as you're using them it doesn't matter. God - you should see my new irons after 3 rounds! Bag chatter is to be expected and does not make a scrap of difference. If you were to sell them, I hardly think you'd be making a "huge loss" as you say, because you bought them for a good price and could probably sell them for the same if not more. Just play them and enjoy them. "very good" is a description a lot of sellers use and can mean a season or more of wear. 5 rounds is probably pushing it but.....really......I think they look great in the photos!
You ask how much life they might have left in them. I'd say 15 years easily.

[obsessedgolfer]

well i sold my ap1's and got the zbs...... bought them used off ebay for $450..... has 11k feedback has a golf store and very reputable..... ad said VERY GOOD COND 5 round only on them bought them since he claimed how nice they were and only had 5 rounds..... got them in the mail this morning and he had golf pride grips that are green..... look like crap imo and the faces dont have a satin finish in the middle.... i was all exited to go play them today but contimplating on reselling them and taking a huge loss

This has nothing to so with your clubs bieng in bad condition but why is your scotty cameron circa in the background but not in the bag.

[tjy355]

This has nothing to so with your clubs bieng in bad condition but why is your scotty cameron circa in the background but not in the bag.

That is an easy question to answer - he's gaming the true magic putter (Anser) and not the cheap knockoff.

[NI4NI]

That's the downside of eBAY (buyer beware) - this is why you ask for add'l photos, and more explanation before shelling out your hard-earned scratch.

Maybe the seller only used them for 5 rounds, but hit 100 buckets at the range. Maybe his friend also hit them for a few rounds, or that the seller was not the original owner. These are the "details" that can turn your 'Christmas in September' feeling into the 'your hot girlfriend just dumped you two days before the senior prom' one.

If you can get over the initial sick feeling, then maybe these will end up being great irons in the long run. Wish you well.

[drewdown]

Should have bougth them new my man!

[Snake]

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but ebay can be a crap shoot. Those have obviously been played more than 5 rounds, but they don't look that bad IMO. Like someone else said, "very good condition" is subjective. And if you look closely, you can see the wear on the club in the picture on ebay. I say go play them and decide if you like them or not. Two or three rounds won't add much more wear than is already present. If you don't like them, you should be able to sell them for the same price if you were to sell them today.

[N.V.M.]

i just checked out the seller. he has thousands of transactions, tons of golf equipment. there's no way he knows anything about the history of those clubs.he's pretty much a used car salesman of golf clubs.

[shredfit]

Actually, I think you got a pretty good deal. I saw a used set in a pro shop a few weeks ago that my have been in marginally better shape and they wanted $650 for them.

If you shell out $800-900 for new ones they will look like that after 10-15 rounds including range practice. So, you got them for half price.

If it was me, I'd be happy... not sad

[polodinks]

This has nothing to so with your clubs bieng in bad condition but why is your scotty cameron circa in the background but not in the bag.

cause im selling the circa

That is an easy question to answer - he's gaming the true magic putter (Anser) and not the cheap knockoff.

true im gaming my old pal cause ive putted really good with it

Should have bougth them new my man!

hey i only had 450 for clubs not 600!

[RichF]

These irons should be fine if the grooves are still fairly sharp and clean.
Just replace the grips and you'll get loads of play out them.

Have all the irons got similar facial score-marks or just the 7-iron?