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Today I was lucky enough to demo the new Vokey TVD wedges. What a fantastic club. I new I'd buy them as soon as I hit the first few shots. The dynamic sole grind allows for every shot imaginable from every lie imaginable. I was also quite pleased they are spin milled.

That said, being that they only made 600 of these, I was worried It'd be too late to order mine. I guess there still out there to purchase because I got two of them to add to my bag (54* bent 1* strong and 58* bent 1* strong...both with TTDG Sensicore shafts). Anyone else had the opportunity to hit these? I'd be curious to see what others think of this wedge and how it's performed for them.

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is that the same idea as the cleveland dsg?

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well, they have really cool grinds, but i grind my own wedges. They are great clubs. They are actually pretty different than the DSG, but have the same idea going. I grind my own wedges, and have heel relief, as well as trailing edge relief, without getting them bent (yea my dad lets me because i took workshop at school and know how). Plus, i keep my loft gaps even. The only downside to the TVD grinds are that they are so dang expensive.

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well, they have really cool grinds, but i grind my own wedges. They are great clubs. They are actually pretty different than the DSG, but have the same idea going. I grind my own wedges, and have heel relief, as well as trailing edge relief, without getting them bent (yea my dad lets me because i took workshop at school and know how). Plus, i keep my loft gaps even. The only downside to the TVD grinds are that they are so dang expensive.

Expensive is right! However, being that I play a ton and wedges get used so often throughout a round, you might as well get something that works best for you and fits your swing/desired ball flight/and spin rate. The game is hard enough as is, you shouldn't have to worry about equipment in addition to performance.

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Expensive is right! However, being that I play a ton and wedges get used so often throughout a round, you might as well get something that works best for you and fits your swing/desired ball flight/and spin rate. The game is hard enough as is, you shouldn't have to worry about equipment in addition to performance.

Why dont you just buy a regular vokeay and have a clubmaker do the same sole grind for you.

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Why dont you just buy a regular vokeay and have a clubmaker do the same sole grind for you.

Too be honest, I'm not sure that would be possible. That said, I'm certainly no club maker or modifier. The money was not really an issue for me. I play enough golf where spending top dollar for what I want is worth it. Also, I wanted the genuine product, as that is what I hit and loved.

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Rossa Imola 8

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