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If I am looking at these correctly, it seems the only difference between these two models is the "plumber's neck" vs. "shaft over hosel".

What are the practical differences between these two connections, if any have experienced them in these models or in general?

Thanks.

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You're right, that's the only difference in appearance. The plumber's neck has more offset than the heel shafted putter. I'm really not quite sure, but the shaft orientation may give the heel shafted version more toe flow, better suited for arcing strokes.

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  elchene said:
You're right, that's the only difference in appearance. The plumber's neck has more offset than the heel shafted putter.

Both right. Half shaft versus full shaft, I believe.

  elchene said:
I'm really not quite sure, but the shaft orientation may give the heel shafted version more toe flow, better suited for arcing strokes.

Corrections/clarifications:

1) they're both heel-shafted putters. Well, as we know it. Scotty has another name for them, like "near-heel" or something as he reserves the 8802 style as true "heel" shafted. 2) toe flow may indeed be a little different on both models. I don't know. 3) toe flow exists on virtually every Scotty Cameron putter, because... 4) Scotty Cameron doesn't believe in anything but an arc stroke and really doesn't make putters for anything but an arc stroke. With #4 being said, more toe flow (more toe hang) generally helps people who tend to leave the face open a bit more than they should. It seems counter-intuitive, but more toe hang tends to help people close the face a bit better. I say counter-intuitive because, for example, with a driver, toe weight slows down or impairs the closing of the clubface.

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As you can see in my sig i have the no. 2 and it is the best putter i have ever owned.

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I've got the #2 as well and it's a great putter. I picked mine up last year and don't plan on replacing it anytime soon. Being a lefty, we don't get to pick between all of the #'s so it makes my decisions easier I guess, LOL.

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Thanks for the input so far. The #2's look appealing, I haven't had a plumber's neck since I had my last Ping putter, probably 20 years ago, but I am going to try and find a place that has both and check them out.

Strange thing is, I like the feel of my Odyssey, just a little shorter than I want and has an odd and very annoying rattle in the shaft connection that can only be fixed by shipping it back and I never take the time to do that.

Plus, with a little reading being a dangerous thing, have been into the whole straight back vs. arc issue, and realized, with a little help, even though I would have thought I was a "straight back" putter, I am not at all. So, I'm letting the face balanced/toe hang stuff get into my head.

Looks like the Odyssey and I will be doing some side by sides soon.

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I use the #3 and it is the best putter I have owned. It sets up nicely and just feels so pure. I think either way you would be extremely satisfied. I give one vote to the #3.

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I play the 3, I tried both of the them and could find no difference. What it came down to was the look of the 3 suited me more then the 2.

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