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If you're looking for a really awesome evaluation of your swing, you should check these folks out. Last week, I went out to the TaylorMade Performance Lab out at Grand Cypress and had a two hour custom club fitting.

It was ridiculous! You enter this vault type room, they strap on 26 sensors all over your body and every aspect of your swing is captured by nine high speed cameras. Anything you wanted to know about your swing will be discovered in the session. It was probably the coolest experience of my golfing life. Once the session is over, they combine all the data gathered and recommend a set of custom clubs, TaylorMade ofcourse.. :) What's really cool, is they give you all the custom stats, so that if you don't want to buy TM you can take it to a different company. They also give you a CD with all of your swings and the data they gathered so you can look at it again. It was too coooooool!

Here's a link to some additional detail, pictures and a video of my hackerswing.

TaylorMade Performance Lab at Grand Cypress

If you live in central Florida and you're looking to have it done, mention me and they'll give you 50% off the fitting price.

Has anyone else been to one of these sessions? I'm curious if everyone has the same experience?

Dave


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Sounds awesome! I have the same irons on the way. Loved how they felt after hitting a ton of irons and should an upgrade on my 1990 Dunlop Tour Specials my dad got from JC Penny's and I inherited.

I have the same issue you had, keeping the face open on contact some, resulting in a push shot. I'm inside to out with my path so rarely slice it. Sometimes with the Driver or 3-wood I will because I'm swinging too hard and that causes me to come from the outside in, but I try and correct that. When I'm on it doesn't happen much and I get a decently straight shot. I just get the arms rolled through the shot all the time. What did he do to correct it?

I know that offset tends to help and on those Burners, the long irons have a lot of offset. So maybe that should help.

I wish I was fitted this extreme. What was the cost? This can't be cheap.

Are today's irons by and large longer than older irons? I've been told the irons I'm using right now are probably a little short for me...

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What did he do to correct it?

He told me to try and hit a hook :) I'm a lefty, so he said imagine there's water ALL down the left side and try to hook the ball. It worked and I've been hitting some nice straight shots. The problem now is I'm actually beginning to hook sometimes, so now I've gotta back off a bit :)

I wish I was fitted this extreme. What was the cost? This can't be cheap.

Yeah, it's not cheap, $400 bucks retail, If you're in Orlando, mention the blog and it'll be $200 bucks.

Are today's irons by and large longer than older irons? I've been told the irons I'm using right now are probably a little short for me...

I believe they are, compared to clubs from the 90's anyway. :) I believe that the new Burners are longer than today's standards too.

Dave


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that sounds really cool. I wish they had that in Canada

I've heard they've got other facilities similar to the TMP but not "brand specific" perhaps they have one close to you?

Dave


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