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Im no expert and only a new vids show my ball not really going anywhere, but I was wondering if you guys can help out on what im doing wrong. (Probably everything) LOL. Sorry for a few in weird colors. I couldnt figured out why it did it at first.

Most recent with my used driver


Two months ago using a 7 iron


Also two months ago using a 3 wood

Whats in the Four 5?

Burner 10.5 Stiff
Burner 3W
CPR 22/26 HybridsG5 5-PW Black Dot +2 Vokey Sm OilCanSV Tour 60* Black FinishBarbadosPro-V1 recycled


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Best advice I could give would be to go take a few lessons to get an idea of swing fundamentals. One positive thing I noticed about your swing is you have great posture and thats a great building block...
In My Bag:
Driver: R7 Limited Matrix Ozik X-con Stiff
3 Wood: 909F3 Aldila Voodoo Stiff
Irons: AP1 3-PW DG S200
Wedge: Vokey Spin Milled 54° NickelWedge: Forged 60°Putter: Rossa Balls: Pro V1XAvatar: Nicklaus North Golf Course, Whistler BC

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You have to keep your left arm straight. You lose all power and consistency if you don't.

In my bag:
Driver: R5 TP Diamana 83s Shaft
Fairway: Burner 15 degree Fujikura REAX
Hybrid: Custom 19 degree
Irons: DCI 990 S300 4-PW

Wedges: NF 52.04*, Spin Milled 56.10* and 60.08*

Putter: Red X3

Ball: ProV1

Shoe: Tour 360 LTD


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Best advice I could give would be to go take a few lessons to get an idea of swing fundamentals. One positive thing I noticed about your swing is you have great posture and thats a great building block...

Thats one of the things im still working on and my backswing and downswing as well as my follow through. Would this help my slices and hooks as well if I took lessons on swing fundamentals?

Whats in the Four 5?

Burner 10.5 Stiff
Burner 3W
CPR 22/26 HybridsG5 5-PW Black Dot +2 Vokey Sm OilCanSV Tour 60* Black FinishBarbadosPro-V1 recycled


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Looks like you are just using your instincts, and instincts don't work very well for the golf swing. Two books I can recommend:

"Five Lessons, The Modern Fundamentals of Golf" by Ben Hogan
"The Golf Swing and Its Master Key Explained" by Noel Thomas

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The key is having an outstanding foundation. I think your set up is great but the balance could use a little more tweeking. Need to rotate those shoulders more and set up in the direction you want to hit the ball.
Bag- Orig. 14 Stadium Tour
Driver- R7 limited 9.5*
3 Wood- R7
5 Wood-Viper Tour
Irons- X18/X22 ToursWedges- 52*/ 56* SandPutter- Hamilton f2 series BladeBall- Pro V1Glove-

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Do you play any other sports? There are a few power leaks that tell me you need to tap into some experience you may have with other sports. Ever shoot a snap-shot, smash a forehand down the line, crank a ball off the back wall (squash) or hammer a line drive over the 3rd baseman's head? There are some genuine loading and unloading principles that are consistent with all these stick-and-ball sports. If you lack that kind of muscle memory, then lessons are probably a must.

Anyhoo, with the driver you seem to be reaching out a bit (arms and hands not relaxed) during the setup. You're not as coiled as you could be in the backswing - don't let club position at the top of your backswing fool you - some of that is collapsing arms (see the "keep the left arm straight" comment). Bending your left arm in order to get the club that far back does 2 things. 1.) It tricks you into thinking you've rotated your legs, hips, and shoulders enough on the backswing, and 2.) you also lose some power on the downswing whie your arms are trying to get the club back in the right position - where it was when your body stopped rotating.

It's hard to tell with the 3 wood, but I think it's the same power leaks.

You can baby a driver or three wood into play with the right shaft. With an iron, you gotta hit it like you mean it.

With your iron shot, it's a matter of physics. You seem to be trying to help lift the ball into the air. You need to hit down through it and let the loft and grooves do the work.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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