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Did anyone happen to catch Phil Mickelson's swing on Minolta's Swing Vision?

His backswings off the tee were way past parallel, almost as long as John Daly. Also, was it just me, or did it look like he hits the ball on the downswing with his metal woods??

Either way the only funky thing I used to notice about his swing is that he raised his right foot on his backswing like the old guys, but Swing Vision opened my eyes a lot. I don't know how he's able to repeat that swing that accurately.

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His backswings off the tee were way past parallel, almost as long as John Daly. Also, was it just me, or did it look like he hits the ball on the downswing with his metal woods??

He does hit down on them. Hitting down on a teed-up ball with your driver is weird. As I said in our chat tonight, perhaps it's no wonder the Titleist ball didn't work out for him, and the 3500 RPM you mentioned from Battle of the Bridges is insane.

The Callaway must not spin at all off of his driver. It may actually spin too little for other people. Y'know, the normal ones who catch the ball on the upswing with their drivers.
Either way the only funky thing I used to notice about his swing is that he raised his right foot on his backswing like the old guys, but Swing Vision opened my eyes a lot. I don't know how he's able to repeat that swing that accurately.

I wouldn't call Phil's driving "accurate."

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Phil's swing is as close to Bobby Jones' swing as any current golfer.

I'm fairly certain that Bobby Jones didn't hit down on his drivers. I'm fairly certain very few if any other professional golfers really do that much at all.

I don't see it. I also don't think it matters: clubs and the ball in Bobby's day were very different than they are today. An exact copy of Bobby Jones' swing probably wouldn't do so well. And I'm not even counting the fact that Bobby was right-handed (har har).

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I wasn't actually talking about the angle of descent. I was talking more about the club arc and positions which are very similar.

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I caught that video as well and also was surprised at how past parralel he is. I was also impressed that on his downswing he managed to squeeze even more out of the V.

On a side note, the Minolta Swing video of the softball pitcher was awesome.

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I caught that video as well and also was surprised at how past parralel he is. I was also impressed that on his downswing he managed to squeeze even more out of the V.

I love Swing Vision, I think it's the best part of CBS broadcasts, I just wish they'd use it more often, hardly get to see it more than three or four times the entire tournament. The pros are so good at htiting the sweet spots of their clubs swing after swing, it's amazing.


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I love Swing Vision, I think it's the best part of CBS broadcasts, I just wish they'd use it more often,

Yeah I agree that they should show more footage. I think the first or second tournament they showed what a shaken coke can does when you open it. It was neat footage but of course I would rather see the pro swings.

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