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My friend just added weight to his TM spider and he was telling me that if a putter is heavier, its easier to make a better stroke more consistently. He said that the extra weight makes it harder for the clubhead to go off line.

Has anyone tried this before?

And does this actually help your stroke?

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My friend just added weight to his TM spider and he was telling me that if a putter is heavier, its easier to make a better stroke more consistently. He said that the extra weight makes it harder for the clubhead to go off line.

A lot depends on how long the putter is. I purchased a 35" putter a while back with a 350g head and it feels like a brick. I'm cutting it down to 34" which should lower the swing weight to more normal. I like putters to be more on the heavy side than the lighter side, but this putter was way too heavy for my tastes. If it's too heavy you tend to struggle with distance control. It's so heavy that you feel like all you have to do is tap it and it will go a mile and end up either running a lot by the hole or leaving them 3 feet short (this is what I've been doing for a month).

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Yes, i would agree. Heavier putters help constant swing rate, however it is a nightmare on fast green. Heavier the putter, the faster it will take off on fast greens.

My putter is inbetween heavy and light, so i can play both fast and slow greens. Its all you to find which weight would be the right stroke.

TM spider putters are nice because they can change weight and such, but it is too bulky for me.
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Heavier or shorter shaft definitely helps with your stroke. I have a circa 62 cut down to 33" which I then short grip. Also, there is quite a bit of lead tape on the bottom as well.

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Basically, the lighter the club, the easier it is for you to move the club off of your target line. This goes for all clubs, not just the putter.

Think about it like this - if you go to the gym and pick up a 95 lb dumbell, and you swing it back and forth, there will be very little variation in the path your arm is able move that weight in and out of that imaginary line. Now imagine that you pick up a 15 lb dumbell. You're able to move that weight much more freely, and there will be much more variation in that path. The reason for all this is because the more weight there is, the less you're smaller muscles are going to be able to influence that movement.

Of course, we dont play with 95 lb putters, but the same concept applies. More weight equals less variation. As is2linda said, speed can become an issue if you're unable to precisely control the heavier weight, and the ball will end up coming off the face of the putter much faster if you're not careful.

 
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