Boise State vs. TCU

[The Recreational Golfer]

What fried me in this morning's paper is that the BCS segregated the two non-BCS teams to play each other the same bowl. Separate but equal bowl bids. Now we don't get to see TCU beat Florida and Boise State beat Cincinnati. It's OK for one non-BCS team to rise up in the BCS bowls occasionally, but if two in one year do it, then the BCS would have no defense in shutting out the "lesser" conferences from the title game. That, and not that I'm a conspiracy theorist, and I also think Florida got big-time protection here. We couldn't have Tim Tebow suffer a two-loss season, could we?

[Leftygolfer]

Do you really think TCU is better than UC? UC doesn't have a defense but they beat a VERY good Pitt team.

I don't expect them to beat FL but neither would TCU.

The system sucks but I think they got it right. Number 3 and number 4 are playing. UC is a better team than TCU.

[DavidFehertysBike]

Will be the best bowl game this year.

Book it.

[Greg]

should be an exciting game, though I hope cincinnati can beat florida, florida has won too much lately but they proved that they were overrated getting handled easily by alabama. If only nebraska could score any points at all they could have beaten texas and then things would have gotten real interesting, still looks like the clock ran out on texas anyway and they should have lost but colt mccoy had to get his shot so college football couldnt let him lose. Tcu plays defense, boise state does sometimes, tcu should win. Florida will underestimate cincinnati and be down from losing their shot at the championship and lose a close one. And i dont see alabama losing to texas, from what i saw of texas against a much inferior nebraska team, yes they will play better but not enough to beat alabama.

[allin]

As someone without a dog in this hunt I doubt very much that UC could beat TCU. Both teams lack depth but in a bowl game that usually is not an issue. I actually believe that TCU and Alabama are the two best teams I saw this year. TCU played an easier schedule, which reduces the risk of losses from being physically beat up, and mentally fatigued. But UC was lucky to win its conference championship, as was Texas. I doubt Texas has the offensive line needed to play Alabama. Nebraska and Alabama had the two best defensive lines in the country this year. Texas flat couldn't handle Nebraskas D line. Alabama does not have anyone quite the caliber of Suh, but their linebackers are probably better and they have a better offense than Nebraska. I think TCU would have a chance to keep Alabama off balance. If TCU beats a good Boise State team then they have the best I wuz robbed case in many years.

[MrKadash]

I think they got it right for the system they have now. Doesn't mean it's perfect, far from it. I don't think TCU or UC deserved to play Alabama. In fact, I think TCU-Boise St. will be one of the better bowl games.

[lobsterzilla]

Do you really think TCU is better than UC? UC doesn't have a defense but they beat a VERY good Pitt team. I don't expect them to beat FL but neither would TCU. The system sucks but I think they got it right. Number 3 and number 4 are playing. UC is a better team than TCU.

TCU is absolutely a better team than Cincy... like was said Bama and TCU are the most complete teams in the country right now and have been the entire season. Cincy beat a VERY MEDIOCRE Pitt team who got beat by a moderate to decent WVU team and a

BEYONED TERRIBLE NC State team (I went there so im allowed to be honest;)) I think boise would definitely beat Cincy and i think TCU would beat FL... Bama is going to beat TX by 30. The Fiesta bowl is going to be by far the best bowl game this season I'd be willing to bet.

[apex53]

I think TCU got completely hosed... They went 12-0 and get no chance to play for the National Championship... Completely disappointed in the matchup of the Fiesta Bowl... I smell conspiracy... Agreed, the BCS can't take a chance on both TCU and UC beating the "big" conference teams... That would expose the nice charade they have going... A playoff system is needed but I'll bet dollars to donuts that it'll never happen... For the record yes I am biased, I did not attend TCU but I have family and friends who went there... If Nebraska had beaten Texas then there would have been chaos... What would the NCAA and the BCS have done then?

[kris]

The best game of the lot. But it irks me to no end that we'll never see if either team can beat a Cincinatti, a Florida, a Texas, an Alabama. Because as far as the BCS is concerned, Boise and TCU might just as well not exist. They get off really easy by making them play eachother, we'll never know if they can beat the best, and the BCS will continue to have excuses as to why they lessen the achievements of 12-0 teams year after year. (Don't forget, 12-0 Boise played in the Poinsettia Bowl last year.... that's right, the Poinsettia Bowl.)

[Leftygolfer]

TCU is absolutely a better team than Cincy... like was said Bama and TCU are the most complete teams in the country right now and have been the entire season. Cincy beat a VERY MEDIOCRE Pitt team who got beat by a moderate to decent WVU team and a

To each there own. I am not a college football expert and a UC grad. I watched very little of TCU and I truely have no idea of there strength of schedule. I do know they are in the mountain west conference. That is about as weak as UCs old conference. The big east wasn't great this year, but there are for sure some good teams. There is no offense in the nation like UCs. I'd take that to the bank.

I wish there was a way to really see. I do think Alabama is the best team in the nation without question. Who is number 2? No idea.

[kennay92]

What fried me in this morning's paper is that the BCS segregated the two non-BCS teams to play each other the same bowl. Separate but equal bowl bids. Now we don't get to see TCU beat Florida and Boise State beat Cincinnati. It's OK for one non-BCS team to rise up in the BCS bowls occasionally, but if two in one year do it, then the BCS would have no defense in shutting out the "lesser" conferences from the title game. That, and not that I'm a conspiracy theorist, and I also think Florida got big-time protection here. We couldn't have Tim Tebow suffer a two-loss season, could we?

i cant actually believe you think tcu could beat florida. lol, the moutain west confernece is garbage. TCU is not all that good.

[kennay92]

I think TCU got completely hosed... They went 12-0 and get no chance to play for the National Championship... Completely disappointed in the matchup of the Fiesta Bowl... I smell conspiracy... Agreed, the BCS can't take a chance on both TCU and UC beating the "big" conference teams... That would expose the nice charade they have going... A playoff system is needed but I'll bet dollars to donuts that it'll never happen... For the record yes I am biased, I did not attend TCU but I have family and friends who went there... If Nebraska had beaten Texas then there would have been chaos... What would the NCAA and the BCS have done then?

i laugh at your ignorance... TCU nor Boise can stand up to the major power house teams. I.E. Bama, Texas, Florida, LSU etc. TCU plays in the friken MW conference, they played no one good this whole year. Put them in the big 12 and i gurantee you they dont go undefeated.

[MrKadash]

i laugh at your ignorance... TCU nor Boise can stand up to the major power house teams. I.E. Bama, Texas, Florida, LSU etc. TCU plays in the friken MW conference, they played no one good this whole year. Put them in the big 12 and i gurantee you they dont go undefeated.

I echo that. TCU wasn't highly rated at the beginning of the season (anywhere from 17-20) and didn't move up because they didn't play anybody. These schools would have a beef if they played tougher competition. I will say that there should be no polls until October when teams have 4-5 games under their belt.

[apex53]

i laugh at your ignorance... TCU nor Boise can stand up to the major power house teams. I.E. Bama, Texas, Florida, LSU etc. TCU plays in the friken MW conference, they played no one good this whole year. Put them in the big 12 and i gurantee you they dont go undefeated.

I'm laughing now at your post... Puts a smile on my face... Yes, they do play in the Mountain West conference... Not a conference like the Big 12 or the SEC... That's exactly why I want to see them play against Florida... Let's see how they matchup against a College Football powerhouse... With the system set up the way it is we will never know... TCU could get the s*** kicked out of them by Florida... Then again they might beat the Gators... I remember Boise St beating Oklahoma and Utah beating Alabama... The system is flawed... You can call me ignorant, that is certainly your prerogative... You seem like a classy guy... Happy Holidays to you and yours

[apex53]

I echo that. TCU wasn't highly rated at the beginning of the season (anywhere from 17-20) and didn't move up because they didn't play anybody. These schools would have a beef if they played tougher competition. I will say that there should be no polls until October when teams have 4-5 games under their belt.

TCU didn't move up? What? They are 4th in the BCS standings and 3rd in the AP Polls.

[The Recreational Golfer]

Both of these teams are better than a lot of people think they are, but without a better bowl matchup, we’ll never know. The Mountain West is not that weak of a conference, with BYU and Utah in the ranks. If you want a terrible conference, the WAC qualifies, but Boise State went through their conference schedule like a hot knife through butter, which an outstanding team should. The price BSU pays for being in the WAC is that we don’t know how good they really are. The win against Oregon was against a team in disarray that did more to shut themselves down than Boise State’s defense.

A few hours after I posted the question I heard that the BCS match-ups are determined on a bidding basis. Florida got its bowl bid though a conference tie-ins, and since the Sugar Bowl lost its host conference champion to the title game, it got first pick of the rest and chose Cincy. That left BSU and TCU as the best available teams.

But still. Unless we play the games, we will never know how good TCU and BSU really are. TCU isn’t number 3 by default, and Boise State not only won every week, but like I say, won big.

[MrKadash]

TCU didn't move up? What? They are 4th in the BCS standings and 3rd in the AP Polls.

Yeah, they moved up. By a process of elimination, not because they deserved it.

[apex53]

Yeah, they moved up. By a process of elimination, not because they deserved it.

OK, I'll agree to disagree with you there

... my point here is that if TCU played against one of these College Powerhouse teams (FLA, BAMA, TEXAS) we'd all know if they are for real or if they are imposters... TCU beat Oklahoma in Norman in '05... Same for Boise State... Instead we are left wondering what could have been or what might have been... A playoff system would take care of all that.