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I was wondering how a set of clubs like Ping Karstens or even Ping Eyes (1981) would compare to clubs being put out on an annual basis. I was hinking about puying a set off ebay and reshafting them with TLT (True length Technology). Doing just for kicks and a little experimentation. Any thoughts or anyone still playing these clubs?

Driver: 600t 10.5*
3Wood: TBD
Irons: 1 Iron Golf 3i-PW
Putter: O-Blade
Hobby: I enjoy collecting samples of vintage Ping


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If you want to have some fun, get a copy of the book from 2005, The Maltby Playability Factor. Look at the different classifications of clubs through the years. Some clubs even had negative MPF scores because of odd designs.

Look up the 1970s era, and ID a set of negative MPF clubs (oh, yes!!), one of Player's Classic (tough but positive MPF score) and Conventional (somewhat user friendly). Then, find sets of each and have a comparison day at the driving range. Get some friends to gether, and see what players had to contend with 40 years ago. Hint: it was a lot easier to hit knockdowns into the wind back then.

One thing I would like to see is someone bring in a van of wooden-shafted club sets to an oldstyle public course, have a training day, and then have a wood-shafted tournament. The Triple A Club in St. Louis used to have a wooden-shafted tourney in which people dressed up in period clothes and played actual "sticks." Not sure what era balls they used.

I'm so excited now, I won't be able to sleep tonight! Ah, what a blog...

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  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha B16 OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:  image.png.0d90925b4c768ce7c125b16f98313e0d.png Inertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  :srixon: QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

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Hickory competitions are played world wide.Played with them for fun last year,great fun and an insight into how good some of those old timers were.
Check this out
www.hickorygolf.com

In The Bag
Mizuno MX 560 Driver
Taylor made 3 wood
Mizuno HIFLI 21*
Mizuno MX 25's 4-pwMizuno MX series wedges 50, 56*/11 & 60*Bettinardi C02 putter4 bottles of pilsner,2 packs cigars


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I have never swung a hickory shafted club in my life. I am old enough to remember the phasing out of Wooden Drivers though, I was in high school and just learning to play.

Driver: 600t 10.5*
3Wood: TBD
Irons: 1 Iron Golf 3i-PW
Putter: O-Blade
Hobby: I enjoy collecting samples of vintage Ping


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IIRC the major brands were Wilson Pro Staff, Ping and Titleist.
Cart Bag: AMP Xtreme
Driver: 460
3 Wood | 5 Wood: Diablo
Irons: (3-8) X18 | X Forged 9 & P
Wedges: X Forged 52 (12) | 58 (10) C-Grind Putter: Anser 4 i SeriesBall: Burner1978 - 93 - All Time Best - 84 or12 over in 1991.1994 - 2008 - Inactive2008 - Present - All Time Best 96 or 24...

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