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Went outside to try a hip sliding drill I saw on here. Feels like it helped the over the top move, but will have to run some tape tomorrow. Again, any and all input will be appreciated.

You got to work on the fudamentals of the golf set up. Your ball position looks good. But you are hunched over the ball, and you are to close to the ball. What you want to do is this. Stand up tall, then bend at your waist, it should feel like your butt is sticking out, once you get a good tilt at the waist, then bend your knees. you don't want to be bent over to much that you feel off balance. The video looks like you are on the heels with your weight. You want to be on the balls of your feet, which are located between the toes and the beginning of the arch of the foot. You can tell if you stand straight up and rock back and forward, get the sense of being on your toes and heels, then come to a neutral balance, you should be on the balls of your feet.

I would work on the posture first this will fix alot. I would practice in front of a mirror. Get some swing sequences of pro's to see there posture, check golf.com or golfdigest.com, they have swing videos or photoes.

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Love your wife going "do do ditty do do di day" obviously she think's you're totally nuts filming your freakin golf swing! LOL!


You got to work on the fudamentals of the golf set up. Your ball position looks good. But you are hunched over the ball, and you are to close to the ball. What you want to do is this. Stand up tall, then bend at your waist, it should feel like your butt is sticking out, once you get a good tilt at the waist, then bend your knees. you don't want to be bent over to much that you feel off balance. The video looks like you are on the heels with your weight. You want to be on the balls of your feet, which are located between the toes and the beginning of the arch of the foot. You can tell if you stand straight up and rock back and forward, get the sense of being on your toes and heels, then come to a neutral balance, you should be on the balls of your feet.

+1

There is no way you are going to be able to keep your hands clear of your body until you fix your posture. Hands are way too close to body. Something else I noticed that is going to keep you from hitting the ball well no matter what. You are not keeping your head still. Looking out to the side like this is going to get you all out of whack. Another thing i noticed, you are flaring out your right knee during the backswing. This will keep you from having any hope of consistent contact. Instead of sliding it right, you should straighten your right knee instead during the backswing. This puts your weight in the proper position so that you can hit down on the ball and make solid contact. Hope this helps.

Hmmm... I was gonna say almost the opposite of saevel25. The setup isn't bad -- maybe stand an inch or two farther away from the ball and angle your feet out a little more -- but these are somewhat minor. It's your backswing that has most of the issues:

1. You turn your shoulders and hips in unison. I would like to see where the shoulders turn first and get, say, 15-20 degrees ahead of the hips before the hips start turning. Then, the hips will turn in response to being pulled by the turning of the shoulders. Even then, the shoulders should continue to turn at a faster rate than the hips, so that by the top of the backswing there is, say, 50 degrees difference between shoulder and hip turn. These numbers are made up off the top of my head and will vary from golfer to golfer based on flexibility and comfort level. Fred Couples used to practically keep his hips still and could make a greater than 90 degree shoulder turn. You just want to feel a bit of coiling in the back muscles, but don't overdo it.
2. You sway off the ball. Notice how your right knee has moved to the outside of the right foot on the backswing... a big no-no. It should remain fairly close to its address position, although a slight straightening of the right knee is okay. But it's important that your weight never really moves outside the right foot. There is debate on whether there should be any weight shift, and some of this depends on the swing theory you are following (one-plane, two-plane, stack & tilt, etc). So, for now, you should try to not let any more than 55-60% of your body weight to the back foot. It's just going to make it that much more difficult to get it back to the left side later.
3. Your left arm completely collapses at the top of the backswing. That needs to remain fairly straight, thereby keeping your hands much farther away from you. If it's a flexibility issue than you need to shorten the backswing until you get more flexible. When you do this change, you're going to notice it is much harder to "throw" your hands/arms down at the ball like you do -- which is a bad thing anyways. You'll need to learn to generate power from the "big muscles" of your torso and hips -- this involves the slide you have been practicing, followed by the turning of the hips, followed by the turning of the shoulders, all causing the left arm and club to be pulled around into the ball. A drill to get the feeling is to stand and extend your left arm straight out. Now imagine you want smack something with the back of your hand as hard as you can. Try it with just the arm, then using your shoulders. You'll probably notice that optimal speed and force is obtained when the shoulders do most of the work and the arm does very little. You can really feel the blood rush to your fingertips when you do it correctly.

But like saevel25 says, it's always good to compare your swing at different points (setup, backswing, downswing, follow through) with some of the pros (either still pictures or video). If you're not in a similar position to them, there's a good chance you're doing something wrong. Good luck.

Even so i find it good to practice the posture, so its repeatable. There is a collapse in his spine angle on the backswing, but mostly due to him being to close to the ball. His hands should be under his shoulders to his chin at address position.

I would like him to have a straighter arm, but its not that important, as long as you do not collapse it fully, it doesn't have to be locked in straight. Yea definetly work on turning the upper body against the lower. You are loosing tons of power when you rotate your hips as much as the upper body. Its alright to bring the left heel off the ground in the backswing, jack did it and other pro's, but you don't want to have that left knee collapse to the right on you like that.

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+1

Just wondering how I can keep my head over the ball when it feels as if my shoulders are "grabbing" my chin on the turn.


Love your wife going "do do ditty do do di day" obviously she think's you're totally nuts filming your freakin golf swing! LOL!

Yeah, the wife definitely thinks I'm crazy.


Alot of great insight, but if I wanted to work on a couple of things at a time, what would be priority?

The reason your shoulder is grabbing your chin is because your slouched over the ball. If you get that back straighter and more flex in the knees then your shoulders will natrually fall backwards. If you stand up straight your shoulder blades naturally fall into there girdle and you stand up tall, you need that feeling when you bend over at the hip. You don't want to squeeze your shoulder blades together, but you want to hold then in there natural position. This will keep your shoulders from being tucked forward on you and get them away from your chin, letting you to rotate around your spine more..

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
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What's in My Bag
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:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

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Hit about 500 chip/pitch shots today. Besides being tired, I noticed something odd on my club face. It seems that even if I lined the ball up with the toe of the club, all my impact marks were nearer to the heel. Thought that was really odd. Any ideas?

Hit about 500 chip/pitch shots today. Besides being tired, I noticed something odd on my club face. It seems that even if I lined the ball up with the toe of the club, all my impact marks were nearer to the heel. Thought that was really odd. Any ideas?

One thing I noticed on your lower video is that your upper body tends to move laterally forward in the second part of the swing, try to swing through without moving your upper body. Your hips can move laterally forward at this moment, fine, but not your upper body. Not saying it will solve it but it could be a part of the problem.

I had to fix this out of my swing 2 years ago, tended to overdo it in chips too so my chips were all shanks.

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