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I have a scotty cameron newport 2.6 35" and i regret getting the midshaft ever since i got it. i put decently with it but not as well as i should. if i could improve my putting id be close to scratch. I have all titleist equipment, and im kind of OCD about that where i want everything to be the same brand, but i have a very old ping zing in my bedroom that i put with when im bored on the putting green about 8' long. I can make like 30+ in a row with it and have never thought to bring it out on the course but i brought it out today for golf practice and putted much better, and felt better stepping up to putts and on distance control. Its a little shorter and has one of those short little attachments to the clubhead that connect to the shaft, not a plumber neck but im not sure what its called, maybe a flange but that could be completely wrong. Should i stick with the zing? and should i sell my scotty? because i feel weird using a very old putter and would like to maybe try out a newer zing or redwood and see how it feels. thanks in advance

My bag:
Driver: 909D2
3-Wood: 909F2
Iron: AP2 3-PW
Wedges: Vokey 52, 56, 60Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.6 35"


Posted
I realize what you are saying about the brand thing, but honestly I would look at you and say what the heck are you doing not putting with the one you are more comfortable and doing better with. If you were using something odd and doing poorly, then that is another story. Look at all the guys on tour and scratch players who use a scotty but play all kind of other irons and woods. If you don;t like the look of it and want something new, just get what feels the most like it since it is working well for you. Ultimately I would say sell the scotty and use the money to look into a new putter you are comfortable with.

Posted
Honestly....get over the OCD and putt with what works for you. Sell the SC and stick with the Zing. Not being harsh on you, but that's a no brainer! Why must something be new to work well for you.

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4 wood..... Nickent 4DX
Hybrids.....Tour Edge Geomax 22* 25* 28*
Irons.....TM R7 6-P + AW,SW,LW
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Posted
If you cant putt with a scotty you have problems...i personally use the newport 2...and LOVE it.

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If you cant putt with a scotty you have problems...i personally use the newport 2...and LOVE it.

300$ putters don't work for everyone.

Driver.... Nickent DX Evolver V2 65 stiff /07 Burner YS6+ stiff .
4 wood..... Nickent 4DX
Hybrids.....Tour Edge Geomax 22* 25* 28*
Irons.....TM R7 6-P + AW,SW,LW
Putter.....Odyssey White Hot XG 2 BallBag.......Callaway ORG 14 A.L.I.C.E. Ball........Bridgestone e6 / Srixon Soft Feel...


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300$ putters don't work for everyone.

True - up until Christmas I only ever had one putter for about 8-10 years. It came with a half set of irons from a cheap catalogue store but I'd gotten so used to it that all of my playing partners used to curse me. I regripped it 3 times but never thought to change it.

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If you cant putt with a scotty you have problems.

if i could improve my putting id be close to scratch.

Back to the OP. Are you serious? You are asking us if you should use a club that will lower your scores

Sounds like you will be scratch in no time

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In putting, go with what works. I stumbled onto my Pal when Golf Galaxy was expanding in the area. I picked it up, waggled it, and proceeded to sink three 10-foot putts.

The young clerk said he was trying to move out some old clubs, and would give it to me for $30 with a regrip. I played with it off and on for a couple of years, and then went with it fulltime last season. I later won a putter fitting at a GG demo day, and got it tweaked just right (was missing left, and skidding on shorter putts - tweak took care of these problems).

If the Zing is almost there, might go for a putter fitting.

Or, go onto the Odyessy site and use the putter fitting module:
http://www.odysseygolf.com/Global/en-US.html

The Ping site has a similar Web-Fit module for putters:
http://www.ping.com/clubs/putters.aspx

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I say go with the Ping. I am like you and I love my stuff to match but to be honest I have also played many other brands besides Titleist and I just happen to be more confident and play well with everything that I have even though almost all of it is Titleist. You gotta use what works for you.

Here are a few examples with me. I went from the Croba F Speed to my 907 because the 907 was more of an accurate driver for me and even though I lost about 10 yards off my drives I am hitting way more fairways. My 3 woods have been Callaway Xhot, Adams Speedline and now my 906. The Xhot could be used as like a second driver it was so long but I couldn't get it up off the ground and was way to inconsistent and the speedline I couldn't get up in the air and the shaft was no good for me so I got my 906 which I can hit more accurately and my misses are not major hooks or slices but more a draw or fade. My Irons I went from a GI Cobra w/ Graphite shafts to my AP2 and the AP2s are better for me cus the shafts are heavier and I feel more confident looking down at address. My old Ping Wedges were old and worn down and the Vokeys had better feel than Cleveland, Ping and TM wedges. My Scotty I just added and tossed out my old Odyssey XG White hot. The insert left me with inconsistent readings on my putts so I went with a milled face and it took me about 4 months to find the right putter which is my Scotty, Still a blade design with a wider body so in between a blade and mallat.

Sell the Scotty and game the Ping.

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Posted
The Zing putter is a very good putter.
I like it but prefer my Yes! putter, but not by much

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Posted

Haha thanks dude

thats what im going for lol yeah the second time i took it out i was pretty money with the zing didnt miss within 8 feet for 9 holes shot a 38.

My bag:
Driver: 909D2
3-Wood: 909F2
Iron: AP2 3-PW
Wedges: Vokey 52, 56, 60Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.6 35"


Posted
Sounds like you need to become OCD about your score and not your golf bag...

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Posted
Sounds like you need to become OCD about your score and not your golf bag...

haha im ocd about my score but i just dont ask people on some golf forum on how to get better, i actually go out and get better lol this is where i ask for equipment help buddy ive been playing for 2 years and im at a 5

My bag:
Driver: 909D2
3-Wood: 909F2
Iron: AP2 3-PW
Wedges: Vokey 52, 56, 60Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.6 35"


Posted
haha im ocd about my score but i just dont ask people on some golf forum on how to get better, i actually go out and get better lol this is where i ask for equipment help buddy ive been playing for 2 years and im at a 5

Just my 'off' way of saying stick with the Ping?

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85,84,85,84


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If you like the look of the zing, but want to stay with one brand, you could try the Scotty Laguna, similar look to the zing, not sure the feel would be the same. But really you should play what feels comfortable and gives you confidence, regardless of brand.

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