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Was at the mall today so a cursory stop at Dick's was in order. Of all the Maxfli stuff they had laying around, I found a single Boccieri Heavy putter, a BC1. Man did it feel good...the stroke just seemed soooooo smooth compared to normal, and it was more gravity bringing the club through the stroke than an actual swing. Speed was a bit off on my putts on their very shoddy green (maybe it was intended to really put you to the test, but their "flat" putting surface would have 3 or 4 breaks in it on a 15' putt), but that's to be expected with a putter weighing so much more than I'm used to.

So, what was this mystery Heavy putter...their B1, coming in at a hefty 475 grams of head mass.

What I currently game though, and would like to game forever (literally, FOR-EV-URRR), is a Ping Karsten Anser 2i received as a gift. I'm wondering if there is any way to add a considerable amount of weight to the clubhead. I know lead tape and the such, but I imagine I would need close to 100 grams added to the Anser 2i (guessing on it's mass). I strongly doubt I can get it up anywhere near 450 grams, but as much more and still retain the original putter is good.

I've heard of adding lead or sand to a shaft which I am considering in the lower few inches of the shaft, but I don't know how much I'll be able to add their.

Any other ideas?

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I own a D1 DF and a G3 DF. I like each of them for different reasons. They are both very ugly, but man, they just work. I bought them on a whim for under $40. Guys that rely on hand and wrist action to control distance hate these things.

I know you are asking to load up a standard weighted putter. I would find a Heavy Putter you like best and run with it. Your Anser is not a face balanced putter so optimizing any added weight would be a serious challenge. Heck, adding any weight to a putter can really mess with performance. My Bullseye is still in the bag because of familiarity, but it isn't going to last.

I played 9 with the D1 DF and I was burning the edge with every putt. The neutral alignment the humps create work. I won't lie and say I only had 9 putts that day, but every roll had a chance. I have never had rock steady hands so the Heavy Putters are great for me. Won't be long before one of em stays in the bag.

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I own a D1 DF and a G3 DF. I like each of them for different reasons. They are both very ugly, but man, they just work. I bought them on a whim for under $40. Guys that rely on hand and wrist action to control distance hate these things.

Dang, $40? I need to shop where you shop.

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My brother uses a Heavy Putter and he loves it. I only hit a few putts with it (not my thing) but I noticed that not only is there increased mass in the putter head but in the shaft under the grip seems to be weighted as well. I assume it's for balancing purposes. So I think adding a bunch of weight to your Ping might not be a good idea. Like another poster said you may as well leave your Ping as is and go pick out a used Heavy Putter. I have seem them used in the Mpls area from about $50. One thing I will mention is I have heard many people that used those large massed putters that they are golden 10 ft and in but it takes some adjusting and practice to get the feel for medium and lag putting. It's what I heard anyway.

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My brother uses a Heavy Putter and he loves it. I only hit a few putts with it (not my thing) but I noticed that not only is there increased mass in the putter head but in the shaft under the grip seems to be weighted as well. I assume it's for balancing purposes. So I think adding a bunch of weight to your Ping might not be a good idea. Like another poster said you may as well leave your Ping as is and go pick out a used Heavy Putter. I have seem them used in the Mpls area from about $50. One thing I will mention is I have heard many people that used those large massed putters that they are golden 10 ft and in but it takes some adjusting and practice to get the feel for medium and lag putting. It's what I heard anyway.

Might be sold on the idea....

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A friend of mine who's a great golfer has a heavy putter and loves it.

I tried it a few times and I can see the appeal and benefits, though i'm not ready to give up my own putter.

One word of caution. If you accidentally hit yourself in the ankle with this thing while walking around the green, you may be out for the round. I did and it hurt like a MF. Be careful!


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Played GREAT with my Scotty today...might actually be bagging it for a bit.

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Dang, $40? I need to shop where you shop.

Ebay. Heavy Putters have practically no resale value.

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I think my next putter purchase (whenever that is) will be a Heavy Putter.

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A friend of mine who's a great golfer has a heavy putter and loves it.

This is very, very true!!!! Same brother, same putter. Just last week he hit this nice bunker shot and when he was done raking he was walking along the top of the trap headed for the green. Well he hit's his ankle with the Heavy Putter, takes this little hop, loses his balance and he and his Heavy Putter fall @$$ over teakettle right back into the same bunker he just hit out of. I'll tell ya, it made my top 5 list of the funniest things I have ever seen! So be careful!!!


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One word of caution. If you accidentally hit yourself in the ankle with this thing while walking around the green, you may be out for the round. I did and it hurt like a MF. Be careful!

I do that all the time with my normal putter. I feel like such an idiot!

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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I left a nasty welt on my shin yesterday....was on pace to break 45 for the first time ever on a legitimate course (shot a +2 through 9, but it was a pretty lame course) so I was in the zone while trying to read a break. While circling the green, WHACK, and that was all she wrote. bogey, bogey, double bogey to finish out the round after a 4 par run in the middle.

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