Avoiding the double-cross

[The Recreational Golfer]

When I set up for a fade, the ball fades pretty as you please. But when I set up for a draw, sometimes it goes right, too.

Any ideas on how to avoid the double-cross?

[The Gill]

It starts right because your face is open to the right. It keeps going right because you're swinging straight through or outside in.

Here is a really good explanation:

[The Recreational Golfer]

That much is understood, but that's the effect.

My question is about the cause. If I'm set up for a draw, aimed slightly right, clubface slightly closed, what am I doing during the swing on occasion that causes me to "undo" this setup and hit the shot backwards (fade instead of draw).

[iacas]

Originally Posted by The Recreational Golfer

That much is understood, but that's the effect.

My question is about the cause. If I'm set up for a draw, aimed slightly right, clubface slightly closed, what am I doing during the swing on occasion that causes me to "undo" this setup and hit the shot backwards (fade instead of draw).

Very few people have good success playing a pull-draw (i.e. closed clubface relative to stance). My two curving shots are a push-fade and a push-draw. If you mix it up and play a pull-draw and a push-fade then things can get wonky and your body starts to almost forget what it's going to do. Good players tend to overhook the ball as their "bad" shot, so their bodies are almost pre-conditioned to try to avoid that if it starts to have those sensations.

Now that's a whole lot of mumbledy jumbledy, but basically, your body doesn't trust what you're trying to do. So you need to either change what you do or find a way to reassure yourself that you'll be fine.

My advice would be to either play a pull-x (fade, draw) or a push-x (fade, draw) in either case.

[The Gill]

You're swinging from the outside in...

Maybe you're casting it and releasing too early.

Maybe you're lining your feet to the right but lining your shoulders to the left (I do this).

Maybe you're not moving your body to the left from the top...

There's three maybes for you. Unless there is video it's tough... Two things are sure: open club face and a outside to in swing path. If you have more info I'd be glad to through more thoughts...

[The Recreational Golfer]

These are good places to look. Thanks for the suggestions.

[The Recreational Golfer]

Originally Posted by iacas

Good players tend to overhook the ball as their "bad" shot, so their bodies are almost pre-conditioned to try to avoid that if it starts to have those sensations.

Now that's a whole lot of mumbledy jumbledy, but basically, your body doesn't trust what you're trying to do. So you need to either change what you do or find a way to reassure yourself that you'll be fine.

My advice would be to either play a pull-x (fade, draw) or a push-x (fade, draw) in either case.

That hits the nail right on the head. I've been trying to get rid of the leftward drifting shot this fall that has plagued me for years, but still want to be able to go left when I need to. I'll try hitting this shot pushward.

Thanks for the suggestion.