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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

rust become soft metal = more spin.


Nonsense

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Originally Posted by hokiebound

Well I'm fine with how much it spins now, I was just wondering how to properly maintain them.



Just use a stiff nylon brush. That's all.

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The theory is that rusty wedge faces cause extra friction and spin, however rust makes the grooves smaller and hence spins even less.

Originally Posted by OPIRIP

rust become soft metal = more spin.



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i was make mistake. you are so right.  I like raw wedge. i can save face club non-rusty, so i taped on face club.  why not.....


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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

rust become soft metal = more spin.

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/is_rust_a_must

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13879

Originally Posted by Shorty

Nonsense

Rather than the one-word answers, at least tell him why next time... C'mon. :-P

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Originally Posted by iacas

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/is_rust_a_must

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends

http://thesandtrap.com/b/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13879

Rather than the one-word answers, at least tell him why next time... C'mon. :-P


iacas, Thank you.    a rusty wedge will increased spin however short 2-3 seasons. Then back to normal spin or less spin.    Well, I knew it.


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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

iacas, Thank you.    a rusty wedge will increased spin however short 2-3 seasons. Then back to normal spin or less spin.    Well, I knew it.


No, it won't. A rusted wedge will not increase spin.

How you got what you said from the links I posted, I do not know.

Rust, if anything, decreases spin . Period.

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Originally Posted by iacas

No, it won't. A rusted wedge will not increase spin.

How you got what you said from the links I posted, I do not know.

Rust, if anything, decreases spin. Period.


Okay, yourself believe it.    I dunno,  a file nail rough surface like as sandpaper.  a rusty wedge surface on face little rough will increased spin but  10 times shot. back to normal spin and can be decreased spin. Period it!!

no important it for rusty wedge !!   Pro Tour can afford it.



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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

Okay, yourself believe it.    I dunno,  a file nail rough surface like as sandpaper.  a rusty wedge surface on face little rough will increased spin but  10 times shot. back to normal spin and can be decreased spin. Period it!!

You're wrong. And it's not a matter of "believing" anything. It's fact. They simply "are." The fact of the matter is a rusty wedge will not spin MORE.


Originally Posted by OPIRIP

no important it for rusty wedge!! Pro Tour can afford it.

I don't know what that means.

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Originally Posted by iacas

You're wrong. And it's not a matter of "believing" anything. It's fact. They simply "are." The fact of the matter is a rusty wedge will not spin MORE.

I don't know what that means.



I mean a raw metal wedge with hard oil paint look like rusty wedge. it's expensive. Titleist Vokey Design Spin Milled™ Wedges provide increased spin.


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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

I mean  a raw metal with hard oil paint look like rusty wedge. it's expensive. Titleist Vokey Design Spin Milled Oil Can Wedges provide increased spin.



I'm just guessing what you're trying to say since your words all come out scrambled on my screen.

An oilcan vokey will rust. It looks like crap, but that's not the issue. Right out of the box they spin too much because of the swirls. If you want to rip the face off a surlyn ball, use a new Vokey. Right about the time that shit wears off and they start to perform like a normal wedge, they start to rust, then they spin less than a normal wedge. Summary: they suck.

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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

Okay, yourself believe it.    I dunno,  a file nail rough surface like as sandpaper.  a rusty wedge surface on face little rough will increased spin but  10 times shot. back to normal spin and can be decreased spin. Period it!!

no important it for rusty wedge !!   Pro Tour can afford it.


I've read this 3 times and I'm still very confused.

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Originally Posted by delav

I've read this 3 times and I'm still very confused.


Again i explain it.  a rusty wedge has club face is rough like sandpaper however while play golf 2-3 seaons. it's will back to normal spin then damage groove because rust decrease spin almost no groove.


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Originally Posted by OPIRIP

Again i explain it.  a rusty wedge has club face is rough like sandpaper however while play golf 2-3 seaons. it's will back to normal spin then damage groove because rust decrease spin almost no groove.


Please make this the absolute last post from you that makes no sense at all. You told me that you learned English as your first language, so please type English.

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Apparently they don't learn English in Canada ;-------)

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Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Apparently they don't learn English in Canada ;-------)



You're probably right.

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I don't know, it seems like rusty grooves do put more spin on the ball.  The rust increases friction between club and ball, increasing spin rates.  And the reason for tour players not having rusty wedges could be because wedges that are rust-creating are non-conforming..?

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Originally Posted by GoldenBearCub

I don't know, it seems like rusty grooves do put more spin on the ball.  The rust increases friction between club and ball, increasing spin rates.  And the reason for tour players not having rusty wedges could be because wedges that are rust-creating are non-conforming..?

No. Please see the links above. Rust does not increase friction - it's a fine, flaky powder. When's the last time you applied a fine, flaky powder to increase friction in anything? It wears down edges of grooves and takes up space in the grooves. It's more "debris" that grooves help to clear away.

Rust decreases spin.

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