R11 Irons = Tour Preferred CB???

[8.5_Drive]

To me, these irons look very similar.

Is this just yet another marketing strategy to get us buying the newer irons? The changes seem to be purely cosmetic

Thoughts?

[Long Ball Larry]

I was thinking the same thing. At address, the CBs also remind me of the Burner 1.0s. Definitely a marketing strategy, although I think the R11s are ugly.

[Pope33]

I thought that as well when I saw them this week. I could be guessing at this but aren't the R11 a tad bit more oversized? And aren't they a bit more offset? Just looks like it from the pictures I have seen. But in the end, it's all a marketing ploy..........and it might just work on me

[8.5_Drive]

I dont buy into it atall, but it does annoy me that they make so much money doing so little work.

I was playing with the head of mizuno golf in europe, and he said they are looking at releasing new models every 6 months now. Just to keep up with the competitors.

And to make it worse, they market them all the be 'better than the last' 'the best irons you will ever hit' 'the most forgiving' etc.

disgusting.

[glock35ipsc]

Originally Posted by 8.5_Drive

I dont buy into it atall, but it does annoy me that they make so much money doing so little work.

I was playing with the head of mizuno golf in europe, and he said they are looking at releasing new models every 6 months now. Just to keep up with the competitors.

And to make it worse, they market them all the be 'better than the last' 'the best irons you will ever hit' 'the most forgiving' etc.

disgusting.

That is one of the main reasons why I am so turned off from the big OEM brands.  I like Jesse Ortiz's (Orlimar, Bobby Jones) comment the he won't put out a new product unless he is absolutely certain that it is better than the one he is currently making/selling.

[delav]

I think that these are two pretty different sets of irons sharing the same design language as TM looks to push the weight-cartridge technology.

Chances are the weight, width, offset, loft, CG, MOI, etc are very different between these two.  After all, the R11 is to replace the R9 line, not really the TP line of clubs.

Now whether or not TM should introduce new products as often as they do... who cares.  It means cheaper sets of R9s for all.

[dduval08]

I agree this seems just like a ploy from TM, that is why I choose not to play their equipment

[Mattyness22]

The CB's are forged and the R11's are cast....big difference actually

[BuckeyeNut]

Originally Posted by Mattyness22

The CB's are forged and the R11's are cast....big difference actually

Yea......that's a big difference!  IMO......the CB's look good and I'd consider them if I was in the market for new irons.

[Jmdmbike]

TM website says the CB has a forged face and the rest of the club is cast. Not exactly sure how that works or compares to other forged clubs?

[BuckeyeNut]

Originally Posted by Jmdmbike

TM website says the CB has a forged face and the rest of the club is cast. Not exactly sure how that works or compares to other forged clubs?

That's a big turnoff for me.....

I've been playing forged Mizuno irons for years now, and there is no way I'll consider anything with "cast" in the description.  I'm sure they are good irons and all........but they don't meet my criteria.

[R11driver]

I just bought a set of the TM CB irons and really like them. I tried them side by side with the R11's and there was no comparison. The R11's were consistently shorter and harsher. To me, there was a big difference in the way they played and felt.