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So as some of you schmucks will know I've been trying to learn a new swing. Kuykendalls LPG swing.

When I started this swing I didn't realize that the changes I was working on change just about everything that I'd taken for granted in the golf swing. Some are bad some are good.

One of the advantagous things is spin. I've never been a spinner. I've never lobbed the ball over the pin and spun it back. I'd always thought it was my ball or how hard I hit it. But now with this new swing I've got a new element to my game that I never expected.

So the LPG swing means you hit the ball with a very low angle of attack. Sometimes I'll hit 20 or 30 balls and the ground will have very shallow,long divots, well they're hardly divots, more like grazes. Sometimes it's hard to see where I've been.

So my ball flight with the new method is high and long......longest I've ever hit my irons for sure. The other night I started hitting 130 meter pitching wedges at a local par 3 course and realized I had plenty in reserve. I went to the back tee and was bombing 145 meter wedges. Super happy!! BUT, the thing that got me was just about every shot I hit backed up 5 meters or so....I've NEVER done that. I've even noticed that my mid irons "stick" better.

So my question is......I'd always thought that to spin the ball I had to hit down on the ball. Am I wrong? When I swap back to my traditional golf swing, the spin goes ....as does the distance.

So do you hit down for spin or is a low angle of attack better?

Taking the above advice may lead to destruction of your golf game. Laughing at it may reduce stress.


With your swing changes, you've narrowed your spin loft which generates more spin. Given a persons swing, by swing down more, they will decrease loft but spin loft will generally remain the same. This leads to a lower flight but no additional spin.

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Originally Posted by Fried Egg

With your swing changes, you've narrowed your spin loft which generates more spin. Given a persons swing, by swing down more, they will decrease loft but spin loft will generally remain the same. This leads to a lower flight but no additional spin.

More spin = a larger ("wider") spin loft. The italic part is all correct too.

And two balls can have the same amount of spin but if one has a landing angle of 60° and one has a landing angle of 45° the second ball will not spin back as much as the first.

P.S. your "old" swing is probably not all that different looking than your "new" swing. Where's the video?

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