Norman says 'lots of guys' were using beta blockers

[Wansteadimp]

Originally Posted by ev780

WADA and USADA are a friggin joke.  As evidence I give you Lance.  Never failed a drug test but railroaded anyway.  Do you think WADA would accept witness testimony if you tested positive yet brought forth witnesses to say you were clean.  And despite all of WADA's efforts cycling is still the dirtiest sport out there.

Apart from the one he got a backdated prescription for and the one he made a donation to the UCI to make go away - clean except for those!

[SoCal Blade]

if this "news" were to be taken seriously, then we would have to get it from someone OTHER than norman... He's an ass of epic proportions and has no cred at all....

Hey greg....SHUT UP !

[cooke119]

And what to do with a wonderful person/player like Christina Kim who suffers from depression/anxiety and is on meds. Do we ban her from playing because her meds decrease her anxiety and relieve her depression, I personally don't think we should. It would take away her livelyhood, that's not fair. IMO if the person has a medical need for a perscription medication they should not be banned from playing. (I don't know what to do about a phony doctor perscribing meds, to me that is someone breaking the law and it should be treated as such.)

Now having said that, and thinking about this subject, I'm reminded of the player (can't think of his name) who had a medical condition that prevented him from walking the course, he needed to use a cart. The USGA or PGA banned him from tournaments and there was a legal battle that I believe he ultimately won. Should he or people who suffer from those types of medical conditions be banned from the tour? Not so clear cut.

[turtleback]

Originally Posted by cooke119

And what to do with a wonderful person/player like Christina Kim who suffers from depression/anxiety and is on meds. Do we ban her from playing because her meds decrease her anxiety and relieve her depression, I personally don't think we should. It would take away her livelyhood, that's not fair. IMO if the person has a medical need for a perscription medication they should not be banned from playing. (I don't know what to do about a phony doctor perscribing meds, to me that is someone breaking the law and it should be treated as such.)

Now having said that, and thinking about this subject, I'm reminded of the player (can't think of his name) who had a medical condition that prevented him from walking the course, he needed to use a cart. The USGA or PGA banned him from tournaments and there was a legal battle that I believe he ultimately won. Should he or people who suffer from those types of medical conditions be banned from the tour? Not so clear cut.

I think it would be perfectly reasonable to have an independent Dr. selected by the organization (PGA, LPGA, Eurotour, or whoever) examine anyone requesting a waiver and making the determination of whether the waiver is medically justified.

[newtogolf]

I agree, but it can be a chicken and the egg situation.  Did the golfer suffer from depression and/or  anxiety their entire life or was it a result of recent poor play.

Do you give a golfer that's played poorly, is in risk of losing their pro card and is now depressed an advantage by using beta blockers?  Should a pro that's sustained an injury be approved to use steroids or GH to help them recover more quickly?

Originally Posted by turtleback

I think it would be perfectly reasonable to have an independent Dr. selected by the organization (PGA, LPGA, Eurotour, or whoever) examine anyone requesting a waiver and making the determination of whether the waiver is medically justified.

[Wansteadimp]

Tour appointed doc is the way to go. Cycling's problem (1 of many) was team appointed docs writing dodgy prescriptions.