My Swing (kyan)

[kyan]

I've been Playing Golf for: 5 years (17 years old)

My current handicap index or average score is: 4 handicap

My typical ball flight is: Straight.

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Short iron draw

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[kyan]

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[iacas]

You'll get a bit more feedback if you participate outside of your "My Swing" thread, but if you're trying to eliminate the short-iron draw, I'll ask you this: do you take moderately large divots with your short irons?

[kyan]

Yes i do take large divots with my short irons and wedges

[iacas]

Originally Posted by kyan

Yes i do take large divots with my short irons and wedges

Okay, and bear with me here, I'm just trying to figure out your level of knowledge so I don't talk above or below your level (both can be insulting and/or confusing): do you know what the D-Plane is? Specifically, do you understand the relationship between hitting down and the club's path to the left or right?

You seem to be doing an okay job with some relevant pieces here (below, in the spoiler), but I'd like to see a wedge swing because basically the question I just asked may lead you to understand this: the more down you're hitting, the more out you're hitting, and you need to take shallower divots (hit down less) with your short irons to take some of that draw/hook curve off the golf ball.

[mvmac]

Do the draws typically start off straight at the flag then curve right, start right and go more right, start left of the flag and curve too far to the right?

[kyan]

Originally Posted by mvmac

Do the draws typically start off straight at the flag then curve right, start right and go more right, start left of the flag and curve too far to the right?

For me it starts right then draws further right, I wouldnt call it a hook, its more of a pull that draws 5 meters

[kyan]

Originally Posted by iacas

Okay, and bear with me here, I'm just trying to figure out your level of knowledge so I don't talk above or below your level (both can be insulting and/or confusing): do you know what the D-Plane is? Specifically, do you understand the relationship between hitting down and the club's path to the left or right?

You seem to be doing an okay job with some relevant pieces here (below, in the spoiler), but I'd like to see a wedge swing because basically the question I just asked may lead you to understand this: the more down you're hitting, the more out you're hitting, and you need to take shallower divots (hit down less) with your short irons to take some of that draw/hook curve off the golf ball.

ill show you a message i received from a golf pro in Australia,heres what he said... You have some potential although my concerns are the excessive lateral bending of the upper body on your downswing is going to cause you back injuries in the future. This is also causing your mechanical issues.

The Excessive bending is what us causing your draws and bad shot is a hook , other miss is a push slice. I’ll explain in full why.

If you slow mo your swing, take very close notice to your right foot. The heel is of the ground at impact and your foot loses connection with the ground during your swing. What happens is you spin and slide your hips, this is contributing to your the excessing left lateral bending (Side bending).

On your downswing you go into excessive left bending, this move causes the club to drop way inside behind you.(Have a look in slow mo you can see right elbow behind right hip pocket).This move also causes you to get very STEEP. (this also contributes to the lower body issues above). Your path would be too far inside to out.

In addition what also happens from excessive bending is it causes the spine to kink or the facets lock. (To understand what I’m saying, Stand up now side bend left for me. Now try and rotate to your right see how you can’t rotate yeah?.) When you spine locks from bending it cause the upper body to slow down too early in your downswing. To compensate your arms accelerate and start Rotating to early.(Path to far inside to out, Your face is closed to your path Walla there is your draw or at times a hook.
To fight a hook you then have to pull on the handle try hold the face open, you do this, to try and match the club face to your path, at times you can over cook it, open the face too much and hit push slices.

A suggesting work on turning your shoulders more perpendicular to your spine. To you it will feel over the top big time, I guarantee you won’t be. By doing this it with improve your path significantly and stop you getting steep.
Also I would hit hundreds of balls out of the bunker. (full shots). Screw your feet into the sand to get traction. This will help your connect with the ground and improve your lower body action.

To be totally honest it’s a break down in your coordination patterns it’s more a biomechanical break down than a mechanical breakdown. The break down in your biomechanics is causing the mechanical issues. You really want to fix this problem proerly you need to train your biomechanics or coordination patterns if you want to step up to the next level.

[iacas]

I'll respond first to the block of text from another instructor. It's tough to say with just 30 FPS video (and you're quite small in the frames, too), but "steep" is almost never "inside to out".

Originally Posted by kyan

For me it starts right then draws further right, I wouldnt call it a hook, its more of a pull that draws 5 meters

Then you simply need to work on your clubface control. You could probably mix in a little less pronounced forward sliding and rotate harder, but I'd try this first:

a) Move the ball 1 to 2 inches forward in your stance with the shorter irons.

b) Address the ball with a slightly (not a lot, just slightly) more open clubface.

That's all. Put a stick 10 yards out on your target line or a few inches right of it, and start EVERY ball to the LEFT of it.

[mvmac]

Well said Erik

[kyan]

Originally Posted by iacas

I'll respond first to the block of text from another instructor. It's tough to say with just 30 FPS video (and you're quite small in the frames, too), but "steep" is almost never "inside to out".

Then you simply need to work on your clubface control. You could probably mix in a little less pronounced forward sliding and rotate harder, but I'd try this first:

a) Move the ball 1 to 2 inches forward in your stance with the shorter irons.

b) Address the ball with a slightly (not a lot, just slightly) more open clubface.

That's all. Put a stick 10 yards out on your target line or a few inches right of it, and start EVERY ball to the LEFT of it.

Haven't been on for a while, but thanks for the tips iacas!