Mizuno Raw Haze

[madsolsen]

Hi
I am thinking about buying the mizuno raw haze, but it is alot of money to me and i got some questions before i want to buy it. I hope someone has some experience with it, that wants to help me :)

My questions are:

- Is the rusting part making it less durable or more vulnerable
- Is the rusting part making more spin
- Will the rust affect the other irons when in the bag, like transfering rust to the other irons
- when i want to use the wedge on my short game only, like pitch, chips and flag hunting from like 100 yards or 80-100 meters, how much loft and bounce should i get for most spin. I usually play a sandwedge or pitching wedge from 100 yards and a bit more.

I hope you can understand me, i am not good at the english language ;)


greetings - The Danish Guy :P

[Golf4life]

Have you also compared them to the MP-R Black Nickel sreies?

[asianpsuation]

Hi

1. no the rust wont make it more vulnerable.

2. Yes, rust creates more spin. 3. No the rust wont rub off onto any clubs, and if any residue does, water will wipe it off. 4. Thats really personal preference, its different for everyone.

[iacas]

1. no the rust wont make it more vulnerable.

A raw wedge is more easily worn out than a chromed wedge:

There are some disadvantages to rusty wedges, though. Because they lack the layer of chrome, they are less durable. The grooves are less protected, and more likely wear out more quickly. If you play and practice a lot, you could conceivably wear down the grooves in your raw wedges in just a season or two.

2. Yes, rust creates more spin.

No, not really:

Also, there's a wives' tale that rusty wedges increase spin. The theory is that the rust creates a rougher surface, and that friction leads to more spin. That's bull. The spin is the same for a rusty wedge as it is for a chromed wedge - when they're both new. Once the wedges start wearing down, you'll lose some spin, and that will happen faster with a raw wedge than with one that is chromed.

3. No the rust wont rub off onto any clubs, and if any residue does, water will wipe it off.

Uhhhh...:

Two other minor, and funny, disadvantage to raw wedges. The first is that rust can be messy. If you leave a rusty wedge in your bag, it will transfer that rust to whatever it leans up against in your trunk: Other clubs, towels, your golf bag, shoes, etc. Rust stains, so be careful. All italicized info from this article: Is Rust a Must?

[asianpsuation]

shows u what i know...sorry about the misinformation

[madsolsen]

thanks for the answers..
i will take a look at the mp-r too. So basiclly it is pretty stupid to pay more money for the raw haze when rust is not a positive thing. So i should take a look at that mp-r. Can you recommend other good wedges. I have seen alot of people in here use a vokey or something. One of the good things i like about the mizuno wedges are the weight of them. They are very light. How are the other wedges compared to the mizunos.

And once again.. thanks for the answers

[Jack_2251]

If you want to spin the ball alot from around 100 metres, you should probably be using your pitching wedge unless you are a long hitter. A great wedge for extra spin is the vokey spin milled or taylormade RAC.

[madsolsen]

im not a long hitter.. well i can see your point.. but im trying to learn how to get alot of spin into the ball. So i really just need a comparison between the mizuno and other wedges.
My local ••••••••• reopens with trackman and golfrange and such in 2 weeks so thats a long time to wait to make a judgement on what wedge is best on spin

And the problem with hitting the pitching wedge with spin from 100 yards for me, is that my pitching wedge is not really good quality, my irons are pretty old and i cant afford buying all the wedges in high quality, thats why im thinking about buying a gap wedge.

and still thanks for the answers i will look at that titleist and taylormade

[Golf4life]

Cleveland, Vokeys, Mizuno and a few other reputable high end wedges will get the job done, as far as the performance that you're looking for. It should really come down to the feel and feedback you get from each of them to come up with your desicion. However, it's not going to matter what wedge you buy if you don't understand the principals of creating the necessary spin the shot requires. To me, the short game is mastered by constantly practicing and executing proper technique for the shot, so that when you are presented with a pitch shot, you'll be able to rely on your feel and the confidence the ball will do what you want it to do.

Good luck!

[madsolsen]

my best game is the short game.. i am completely familiar with the principals and techniques on how to make backspin. I made backspin on the last few round i played with my lob wedge until it broke. So i just want to be able to do that again everytime i have a chance at it, with a wedge that is able to do it right and a wedge that will not break or get shattered at the soal or heel or whatever its called ;)

but thanks again i have decided to wait till my local golf shop opens again and then i will fell the titleist vokey and the mizuno and maybe even the nike tiger woods wedge so i can decide what feels best.
And i can probably also meassure my spin speed on those new machines

thans all for the answers

[iacas]

So basiclly it is pretty stupid to pay more money for the raw haze when rust is not a positive thing.

I never said that. I like raw wedges (oil can, anyway). No glare, perhaps slightly softer feel... There are advantages. Whether or not they matter to you is another thing entirely.

[madsolsen]

sorry..
ok.. hmm well i like the part about softer feel but not if that feature disappears after some time and not if the ability to spin the ball much also disappears after some time..
you know?

[iacas]

sorry..

The ability to spin the ball doesn't decrease that much, and the "softer" part doesn't disappear at all. There's no chrome - that's what makes it softer.

You're a 25 handicap? I wouldn't worry about spin or feel at this point. Work on consistency in all levels of your game.

[madsolsen]

ok.. well dont look at my handicap.. cause i play alot better than it.. i have played 4 rounds of golf on 18 holes and i have decreased in handicap all times.. i have the game to spin the ball just not the equipment do to it everytime and prober..

but tyiacas.. i will definently consider buying the raw haze..
so its either mizuno raw haze/black ox or titleist vokey spin milled.. the only backside of the vokey is that i cant get it as a gap wedge.. atleast not in my •••••••••s