Jump to content
IGNORED

How to compare the flex of shafts from different manufacturers


km782
Note: This thread is 3486 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

I would like to buy a hybrid club that will fill the gap between my 3-iron and driver.  For my irons I was fitted with a set of Mizunos with the Dynamic Gold X100 steel shafts.  I hit those irons well and I like the feel of the shafts.  For my driver I have a Titleist 913D2 with the Diamana D+ 72 White shaft.  This shaft is maybe a little more stiff than I would like (got it as a gift) but probably the right shaft for me because I tried the Blue shaft in Golfsmith and was less consistent with it.

I'm looking at the Ping G25 and G30 hybrids and will probably go with the 17 degrees.  My swing speed is right around 100mph which on their web site is right in between the s and x-flex.  The X100 and Diamana D+ 72 are considered x-flex, correct?  I'd like to get a shaft that has a similar flex as my existing clubs.  Is there a way to compare the flex across different manufacturers?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


No! and your being too picky! Go with a stiff, and perhaps go with a shaft that is 10g heavier than your driver! Think they do the diamana in an 82g stiff, sounds like a good match for your driver

Gaz Lee

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Moderator

I'm looking at the Ping G25 and G30 hybrids and will probably go with the 17 degrees.  My swing speed is right around 100mph which on their web site is right in between the s and x-flex.

Your driver speed is 100 mph? I would go with the stiff shaft then.

The X100 and Diamana D+ 72 are considered x-flex, correct?  I'd like to get a shaft that has a similar flex as my existing clubs.  Is there a way to compare the flex across different manufacturers?

Diamana D+72 has two flexes available, stiff and X.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My FacebookTwitter and Instagram 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I do it in a very non scientific way but it's better than nothing and it works for me.

I hold the shaft in my hands horizontally at eye level, left hand touching the hosel and right hand touching the grip, thumbs under the shaft. I then try to flex the shaft and observe how stiff it feels and how much it bows. I then compare one shaft to another until I find  one I like. The trick is to always hold it the same way and apply the same pressure so you can get somewhat consistent results.

Even "identical" shafts of the same brand can show noticeable differences due to manufacturing tolerances.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Frequency Coefficient Matching (FCM) can be used for comparing shaft stiffness across different models and manufacturers.

The GolfWRX site featured an FCM chart for steel shafts for irons. We have posted it here on TST. The FCM was developed by Royal Precision.

The FCM system uses the cycles per minutes (CPM) as its base. To do test, the shaft butt is anchored in an electronic device which measures the oscillations per minute of the shaft when it is flexed and released. A shaft with 250 cpm was converted into a two-digit decimal number, and given the designation of 5.0 by Royal Precision it its original Rifle shafts. RP considered this Regular flex.

Here's the FCM chart (about 3 years old now).

Photo 1 of 1

Things got confusing when RP produced the original Project X shafts. The PX 5.0 flex actually had an FCM of 5.5 - as I found out when the PX 5.0 shafts in my X20 Tours felt harsh on days I wasn't swinging well.

Anyway, that's what was used on steel shafts the past few years.

For graphite and non-steel shafts, more complex codes have emerged that describe the overall shaft profile - going beyond stiffness. Some examples:

  • 3 part: Matrix Ozik 6Q3 shaft (stock in Cleveland 588 driver)
  • Miyazaka (C.Kua and Kusala models) has 4-digit flex code

Also, there's the Maltby Playability Factor (MPF) 4-unit code, which gauges: stiffness, control-distance balance, hook-or-draw corrections, and launch profile, MPF ratings appear on both steel and graphite shafts which GolfWorks distributes. http://www.ralphmaltby.com/265

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 3486 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • Day 22 (23 May 24) / played the weekly nine-hole semi-scramble with the guys.  Solid play - primary focus was on making solid contact with the irons. 
    • Day 41: Pitching/chipping into the net. A few full swings with driver hitting Almost Golf balls.
    • Day 568, May 23, 2024 Loooooooong day today. Got some shadow work done with an umbrella.
    • Day 148: 5/23/24 Hit balls on the range measuring ball speed for each club. Recently watched a fitting video where the fitter said he targeted 5 mph ball speed increase for each club.  Mine weren’t quite there. 4 and 5 mph were pretty similar except for 1 ball. Big jump for hybrid, bigger jump for 4-hybrid, and huge change for driver. Swung for the fences with driver and hit them all pretty straight at the end of my session. Several at 111 mph, which is above my normal speed. Finished with chipping release 1 with several clubs.  Good session!
    • Birdied 15 at my home course today and made a birdie the other day at a course I don’t usually play. Will update the spreadsheet once I’m home on my computer. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...