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This video is 11 years old and Dave Pelz has since passed on. And the video above reminded me of this gem of a thread: I have two issues with this video. First, Dave's math is once again wrong. Winners historically putt to a level where it accounts for 35% of their "win." Very little of a win is short game, leaving most of the 65% for the full swing. Second, and perhaps most importantly… he makes the opposite point he thinks he's making. He proves that the short game is easier and that putting is easier to reach a high level, and that most people have no hope of improving their full swing to the point where they can compete with a PGA Tour player. Because that's the area where better players separate themselves the most. That's the area where the biggest batch of strokes to be gained or lost exists for almost every player. -
TPI (@mytpi) • Instagram reel 617 likes, 10 comments - mytpi on February 2, 2026: "Why test the Toe Touch if you don’t do it in your golf swing? Because it reveals how well you can hip hinge, a foundational movement for posture in golf. When... That's the original link… here's my YouTube copy of the same video: Here's what a… let's go with "knowledgeable" friend said to me about this video: Why on earth would you need to test someone's ability to touch their toes to see if they have the physical capability to get into a good set up position? At the beginning of the video Greg demonstrates the hip hinge movement he wants, just see if they can do that. No toe touching required! He also said they aren't interested in whether a golfer can actually touch their toes, he's trying to see how they hinge from their hips. This doesn't make any sense, as in their screening the criteria is pass or fail for touching toes, there's no scoring for how the person did it, other than that they didn't bend their knees… which is again moronic because you can bend your knees in the swing! The toe touch isn't a hip hinge test either: it's a hip hinge and spinal flexion test. Everyone that touches their does does so with a combo of both. It's a perfect example of a screening being a distraction rather than additive. Sure, having good mobility is better than not, but how can a toe touch be informative of the ability to get into a good setup? You can just ask the golfer to set up and see if they can do what you want! I think it's interesting how many PGA Tour players fail at the TPI tests. P.S. The Toe Touch test has always been, AFAIK, about the hamstrings. Tight hamstrings = gonna early extend. (But even that's not a truth.)
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Haha. My wife fairly regularly makes fun of me for using "SAT words". Solid use of elucidate Def agree on the older clubs point. I didn't think of that. I bought a replacement for an old wedge I loved when they reissued. I wanted it bent upright to match my other clubs. Had my lofts/lies checked on my then quite old Nike irons, and a few of the lofts and lies were off by several degrees! -
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Day 34: 2026.02.05 Only managed a handful of swings out the back. Need at least one proper session at the range this weekend. -
By xrayvizhen · Posted
Well, I went to four years of college & 2 years of grad-school and I had to look up what "dispositive" means. Anyway...So, you're right, no amount of "fitting" will correct swing issues. To elucidate (how's that?), when buying forged clubs of an older vintage, the odds are the loft & lie angles will be off anyway so adjustments of some sort will more than likely be necessary.
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