Any such apparatus

[craps]

Just wondering whether there is such an apparatus for measuring the pitch of a shaft in relation to the club face. Meaning a golf club with a joystick like hosel. The reason I am asking is a lot of times I felt very comfortable with a certain grip but refuse to turn the club to make it square to the target and how I wish  the shaft could be pitched so that the club face will be square. I know I can turn the club and regrip it but it will feel different because the different pitch will cause an uneven feeling in the hands. Am I talking CRAPS here!!!

Edited October 11, 2015 by craps

[iacas]

Yeah, sorry, that doesn't make much sense. Turn the grip. They're round unless you have a reminder rib.

[craps]

Yeah, sorry, that doesn't make much sense. Turn the grip. They're round unless you have a reminder rib.

imagine this. Your desire grip gives you a closed club face. Now without changing the loft of the club, what do you do?

[saevel25]

imagine this. Your desire grip gives you a closed club face. Now without changing the loft of the club, what do you do?

Bend the hosel 

Honestly there isn't much you can do without moving your hands. A closed clubface produced by rotating around the shaft will de lof the club. I can't measure the loft. I would say you need to push your hands out to right field, out and away from you. This will maintain your grip, but  move the face to square to your target line. It still doesn't fix the fact you originally gripped the club with a closed face. In the end you will need to have an adjustment in your swing to compensate for that depending on your swing path. 

In the end why not just grip the club with the face square or open to the target line?

[craps]

Bend the hosel 

Honestly there isn't much you can do without moving your hands. A closed clubface produced by rotating around the shaft will de lof the club. I can't measure the loft. I would say you need to push your hands out to right field, out and away from you. This will maintain your grip, but  move the face to square to your target line. It still doesn't fix the fact you originally gripped the club with a closed face. In the end you will need to have an adjustment in your swing to compensate for that depending on your swing path. 

In the end why not just grip the club with the face square or open to the target line?

would rotating the club face through the shaft and not through hand rolling change the pitch? Yes it does. Most evidently is the driver. You really don't want to forward your left hand more outwards of your body to get a square face at address. So one way is to grip weaker another is to roll both wrist towards right. Do you agree your most comfortable grip will enable you to swing more on plane. So would you let your clubs PLAY YIOU OR YOU PLAY YOUR CLUBS? How about twisting the club head clockwise to get a square face. That way you have your  most comfortable grip and a squre club face. This would be possible if club fitting accessories were to have  joystick like hosel that can rotate 360 and one only need to get fitted for each club with their most desirable grip position.

[saevel25]

would rotating the club face through the shaft and not through hand rolling change the pitch?

If you rotate the hands then you rotate the shaft. If you are talking about gripping the club closed then rotating it open by turning the hands over towards the right then I do not advocate that. 
 

 So one way is to grip weaker another is to roll both wrist towards right. 

If you have the club set up square to the target and grip it weak versus strong the club will still be square to the target. Grip type is just preference with a bit of fine tuning on clubface control in the swing. Besides  one versus the other does not change how the club is set up at address. 

Do you agree your most comfortable grip will enable you to swing more on plane

Nope. I had a super strong grip for years. It was comfortable and I was horribly off plane. Also grip changes are easy to make and easy to get use to. 

 

How about twisting the club head clockwise to get a square face. That way you have your  most comfortable grip and a squre club face. 

Nope, because I wouldn't grip the club closed to begin with. I tend to grip the club square to slightly open to the target. I don't change that when I take my set up. I wouldn't advocate people doing that anyways. 
 

This would be possible if club fitting accessories were to have  joystick like hosel that can rotate 360 and one only need to get fitted for each club with their most desirable grip position.

HUH! How would you even be able to hit the ball if you have a swivel in the hosel? Grips are round, they don't change based on how you rotate the club. If I rotate my club 45 degrees the grip feels the same as I grip it normal. Honestly this idea sounds totally pointless.