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Well i am going indoor golfing tommorow. Has anyone else done this? Is it close to real ball flight and stuff. Winter has given me no other choice. Should I worry about my score or just go for some swing practice.

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the main thing to do in the winter season is to keep swinging...DON'T keep score..also, don't develope bad habits!!!

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what do you mean indoor golfing like a simulator

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So your saying it's an entire indoor course?

Never heard of those.
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There is and indoor golf place in the Boston. Have driven by it a bunch of times, never been inside though. I should check it out some time. Those simulators are very accurate though. They measure your club's loft, swing speed, launch angle, swing angles and face angle at impact so they get a very accurate projection of where your swings should go.

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I have never actually played a full round at an indoor course, but I have played on one of the simulators at Dave and Busters. Pretty fun!

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I've used one before. Played a few holes, putting was a bit odd, I then switch the course back to a driving range.

In my opinion, it is great. You just have to see it as a real golf alternative, not a golf substitute. Nothing beats playing outdoors, the sun, the wind, the smell of grass,etc. But in the middle of winter, you have a chance to play in a climate controlled enviroment, play some of the most exotic courses around the world, is pretty neat.

Again, the putting is a bit odd, cause you are not putting into a cup.

I find the driving range very beneficial, most simulators breaksdown the crucial information prior and at impact. Such as swing path, and swing speed. It can tell you even if you are one degree open. It takes the guessing out of the equation in trying to figure out what you are doing wrong.

I like the ones where you hit off of the mats. Some simulators will have different mat surfaces, so at least you can get a mat that is closest to real life. Those simulators have ball and club sensors throughout the entire room and floor, so you can move around, as long as you are inside the room.

There are a couple simulators that requires you to hit off of a tee everytime. Those are not so cool, as the tee is set on a hard plastic sensor pad which is about 1 by 2 ft. So if you take a divot, you will hit your club on that hard plastic sensor. But that style of simulators can even tell you if you are hitting off the sweet spots

Most simulators claim to be 1 to 2 yards accurate. From my experience, I believe that claim. I've tried on purpose to open/close the club face, inside out, outside in. I think the ball flight is definitely dead on. The only other factors which I don't think a couputer can calculate with pin point accuracy is the carry. On a real course, you can have a weird bounce, favorable roll, etc. On a simulator, I think the couputer is giving you ideal carry.

I think you will enjoy the simulators.

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I have one around where I live and I love it. It's great to have an alternative when it gets cold here.
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We have one here in the Western burbs of Chicago, and it is a great alternative when its below zero outside. And a long as your swinging the clubs thats a good thing in my opinion. I agree with the above comments. Fairly accurate, chipping is a bit odd, because you can't chip as you would outside. The only real complaint I have is the putting. Its nearly impossible to hole a putt. The one by me has a gimmie range of 6 ft I think, but your puting against a wall, from 11ft away fromt he wall so its very different.

But go have fun and enjoy

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Most simulators have the option to let the computer putt for you. I find this less frustrating and gives the allowance to play more holes in the given hour.

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I like the indoor sims. From what I can tell when I play you'll shoot roughly 10 strokes or so above you're handicap, but that will drop when you get used to it. There's next to no feel when chipping, and putting is difficult to judge...that's where you'll lose those strokes. From what I can tell the driving and iron shots are almost dead on.

The driving range is phenomenal. Tells swing speed, launch angle, degrees open or closed, carry, total distance, and shows the flight path on a side-view chart for every chart. Then it keeps a box to show where the differences are in where the balls lands in both distance and yards off center. It's really good for judging distance and accuracy on your different clubs.

I go for the range probably once per week.

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We play every winter at a local indoor simulator... I use it to practice my swig and see how my path is (one of the problems I fight). I seem to hit really well on the sims - so much so that I jokingly tell my partners that I'm giving up "real" golf for "sim golf".

Its better than no golf at all, and we always have a real good time. For us its cheap as well!

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I go for my long game practice in the harsh weather.
You can't really get a feel for wedge distance or half-shots, which I love playing.
Really, it's nothing like the range but it's great when it's necessary.

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Hey, just go to practice. Dont worry about the results, i have never really trusted the shots on simulators.
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Indoor Golf fanatic here. I actually own a full indoor golf training facility. We have on site a full indoor simulator and also do physical training with our clients thru pilates and yoga.

The biggest thing everone should look for when using the indoor golf simulators is the tracking devices. Try and stay away from the old infra red tracking systems, they do not give you the the best in tracking. Be sure to look for systems using the radar system tracking. We at The Golfers Academy use the system by aboutgolf.

We are located in Burlington Ontario Canada and indoor golf is getting more popular due to the limited Golf seasons. We can see the same tracking software is being used on the PGA tornaments while each player is hitting giving Verticle launch angle, distance, club speed and lots more data. This is a system called tracman.

Hope more people get out there and play indoor golf because this is not a video game anymore this is game improvement at its best.

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its fun, a bit expensive, 50$ hour

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its fun, a bit expensive, 50$ hour

Wow that is expensive. At our center we charge $35 per hour and its based on an hourly basis not per person so 4 guys can usually play a round (depending on Handicap) in 3-4hrs

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