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I often find it extremely frustrating when I'm stuck between a slow group ahead of me and a fast group behind me, as it throws my game off a bit. Cherish the days where you, alone, or with a group, are not being pushed and prodded. It really is a great feeling, that nobody is out there watching you, it's just you and the course, the way it "should" be. A lot of people preach that you should have that mindset, that it should just be you and the course out there, no matter how many people are behind or in front of you, but I know this is much easier said than done. Sometimes you get people out there, like Lofty Lefty said, walking and stopping at each ball, and sometimes you have people behind you hitting into you. Without this, I feel the golf game prospers, because sure, your mind may wander, but it's more of a "happy" place than being frustrated with things you cannot control. So then things work together: no pressure, better game, and vice versa: if your game is going well, you're going to feel less pressure. Sorry, not sure how much this really applies to what was supposed to be answered in the discussion, just went for a rant I guess.
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Well said, saevel25, there are so many variations out there, it's unreal. Some of them sound like horrible ideas to me, while others intrigue me. As of recently I've been hooking the ball, sometimes a lot more severely than intended, and while most of it is probably because I haven't been out too much this year, I'd like to attribute some of it to my grip. I have an interlock grip, one that's typically meant for smaller hands. It's worked for me in the past, as it's kept my hands working as one, though I feel that there is too much room that wrist hinge you're talking about, Unkynd. Sure, you want some wrist hinge, hell, sometimes you need it for extra power or for a better launch angle. But when you start getting too comfortable, and let your wrists practically break, you're only providing more routes for your swing to go bad-- unhinge well before you hit the ball, or well after. To repeat saevel25, it's all a matter of finding the grip that helps/matches your swing and body type the best.
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Most of the time I'm kind of in a similar situation, where I haven't had the chance to properly warm up and get the first tee feeling a little out of sync. When I don't get to hit range balls or practice my putting, I focus a lot on stretching before I hit my first shot-- a variety of stretches targeting my hips, knees, shoulders and torso-- and when I hit my first shot, I try to swing confidently. If I do have some time to properly warm up, here's how I do it: - First thing you do is go to the practice green. Start with your short putts and work your way back to longer putts (sink 5 short ones in a row before you advance). Throw in a couple drills as well (Tee Drill or the Fringe Bump). - The second thing you do is pull out your lowest wedge (for me, the LW), and hit baby chips, working your way back with both club and distance as you begin to feel comfortable. Do the same with pitches if there is enough room. - The third thing you do is get a bucket of balls and go to the range, assuming the golf course you're at has one. I always hit off of grass and not the mats, just because it's a personal preference-- I focus on taking a divot and like to see that result to know if I'm hitting my irons as crisply as I'd like. Anyway, when on the range, whether on mat or grass, I start with half swings with my pitching wedge, actually hitting the ball to get the lower part of my swing ready to go-- the hips turning at the right time without too much exertion and a backswing and followthrough. Then I work my way up to my driver with full swings. I really focus on building my game, starting with the shortest movements possible because they're just that, smaller movements within the actual swing that need to be tuned as well. Hope this helps.
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Okay, this might not sound that helpful but my advice is to get drunk and play... not literally, but you just have to forget all that stuff that is clogging your head. Easier said than done, I know, especially when you're trying real hard and being driven crazy because of it. Set up little goals for yourself before the round... "hit 5 fairways," or "hit 8 G.I.R.". Make it so you can accomplish something and feel good about doing it. Don't be shooting for under par right away because it takes years and years. Quit thinking about the swing and quit getting lessons, especially if you're going to different teachers-- too many opinions will truly mess with your head. Have you ever watched the movie Tin Cup? I feel that's a good place to start for the kind of instruction you need. Awesome movie, by the way. An example of the "I don't care attitude" is with my brother. The guy plays maybe 5 times a year, but he shoots in the low 80s every time. Why? Well, for one he's been playing golf for nearly 12 years and at one point established a swing he can now easily recall through muscle memory, but also because he just doesn't give a damn how he plays. He's out there to have fun. He says he never thinks about his swing or his putting stroke, and both are a little unorthodox. I don't know... just some food for thought.
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Before last year I had never hit a blade, and had only used Cavity Back irons. The CBs were Cleveland TA5s from a long time ago, but they worked awesome for nearly 10 years. Why did I switch? My handicap was low enough at the time to take the warnings about blades into consideration, and really I wanted to try something new. But in all honesty they aren't all blades. I bought a set of MacGregor irons where the long irons are full CBs and the further you go, the more MB (Muscle Back) they are. They're meant for better ball strikers than the CBs, and meant for people who want to intentionally work the ball from right to left or left to right, etc. If you're not a good ball striker and tend to mishit the ball more than you hit it purer, stay clear from blades just so you don't get discouraged. Eventually you'll get there if you want to, but really, if you can't hit blades, why buy 'em? Don't be ashamed to get the most forgiving irons available. Blades are awesome but you need to know how to use them. I still am getting used to my clubs, mostly because I don't get out very much anymore, but also because it just requires more work.
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There are many, many places to seek putting advice. The simplest thing I can tell is that when you're home, just be gripping your putter-- hit balls into a coffee cup on the far side of the living room. For me, putting is 99% about feel. If you don't feel good with your putter, you're not gonna make a good stroke, etc. A lot of cause and effect. Putt like Happy Gilmore if it makes you a better putter. In my book, Laying a Foundation: A Beginner's Guide to Golf, I go into more depth about putting, if you're interested. Last I knew you could see the putting chapter through a "Look Inside" feature on Amazon. Garrett
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One thing that really helped me out back when I started was Tiger Woods' "How I Play Golf," which is a golf book that kind of revolutionized the industry. Ben Hogan's instructional book gets a lot of praise but I have not read that one... same with Jack Nicklaus's. I've also watched Butch Harmon's instructional VHS set, as well as Phil Mickelson's recent DVD instruction. The ones that I've watched/read have helped me in the sense that they all give me an idea of what to do and I build on it, figuring things out on my own all the way. A book I've published, "Laying a Foundation: A Beginner's Guide to Golf" is meant mostly for beginners, as it brushes on everything. It doesn't include pictures though, which may be useful for a beginner. Just do some research and decide what you really need to work on... Dave Pelz is a short game guru worth checking out as well.
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Buying used clubs safely.
garrettdennert replied to Grunnsetning's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
I've never had a problem with eBay. Bought almost all of my club that I have now from different sellers on the site, but like it has been said before, make sure you do your research. What is the lowest price might not be the best transaction, and so on. Look for positive customer feedback for a lot of the sellers... I'll shut up b/c I'm sure you know what you to do if you've been on there. -
Coming from a son's perspective, it's awesome to be able to play the game you love with your dad, and actually have it be competitive. I played other sports growing up but it's not like my dad could be out there blocking for me on a rushing play. It's great to be able to work together and compete at the same time... a reason many others should play golf. Glad all of these posts are up here. Thanks to all the dads out there showing their kids the ropes!
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I'm a Titleist lover, especially with their clubs for the short game-- Vokey wedges, Cameron putters. Strangely enough, I don't own a Vokey or Cameron, though I've messed around with a lot at stores. The issue is that they're just too expensive for me. I still play a Titleist 975J driver, 8.5 degree. It's old by typical standards, but it still looks great and plays great. I think that's what Titleist really prides themselves on: feel. Need to get a better paying job so I can afford them comfortably. MacGregor is another good brand... very underrated.
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A cheap route that you can go is to buy and read instructional golf books. Lessons tend to run pretty high, but as long as you choose the right book and can apply words to action, you'd be fine spending anywhere from 8 to 15 bucks on a book. And if money is really tight, I'd just go for used clubs off of eBay or at a local golf store. I wouldn't say there's specifically a brand you should shoot for, but I'd advise you to steer away from forged irons meant for low-handicaps, and go more for Cavity Back irons, which are a lot more forgiving. With drivers and putters, just go for feel really. Hit a couple balls with each while you're shopping and see what you think. Hope this helps. Garrett
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The first thing I'd do would be to go to the range and work your way up to your driver, getting the feel of each change in distance from club to club. Nearly every range has markers for yardage, and even if they are a bit off, they should give you a general idea. You may find that you hit your seven iron, for example, further than you hit your six iron. What this usually means is that you naturally fit your seven iron better, that is if you haven't had your clubs custom-fit. Or you may be making better contact, or worse. You have the right idea of carrying a card with you about yardages, but I wouldn't write down what the approximate distance for each club is. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but what I think you mean is that you're taking approximate yardages off the internet or something, which isn't necessarily what you want to do. You're going to have to put some time into figuring out your own yardages, and then writing them down if you have to. But if you start golfing with more frequency, in no time you'll be able to figure out yardages just by using your eyes. In my opinion, golf is all about feel, but in order to have a good sense of this, it takes some time. Good question, and I hope my response helps. -Garrett
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If I have the time, I definitely hit range balls, if only to get in a rhythm. For me, it's a necessity because I honestly don't get out as much I'd like to, and sometimes go weeks without picking up a club. For that reason alone it's essential for me to start swinging. If I don't do that at the range, I definitely find some time to take a couple swings at home before I hit the road. That being said, I think that if you golf with some regularity, you can get away with not hitting range balls, though I believe practicing your putting and chipping is a must for everyone. Especially if you've never played the course before, you may be able to maneuver your tee shots and iron shots to "safe" spots on the course, but if you have no idea of how fast and firm the greens are, you may SOL for the first few holes. I don't think one should spend hours on end before a round "warming up," but hitting a small bucket will, like you said, at least tell you what to expect from your swing in the upcoming round. If you're slicing the ball on the range, chances are you should be playing that slice all day to the best of your ability. Unless you play every day, and even if you do, your swing is not going to be exactly the same the next time you're out on the course, so therefore I think it's best to get the "bad" shots out on the range before you go on the course. Just think about it... if you take the first 2, 3, or 4 holes to get warmed up, your scores are going to show it, and it's going to be in your head that you have to fix whatever is wrong while you're on the course, which takes your focus away from shots that actually need it. My pre-round warmup routine usually goes like this: 10-15 minutes of putting, starting with short putts and working my way back. 5-10 minutes of chipping/putting, working my way back. (if time) 5-10 half swings hitting range balls with my lowest wedge just to get the bottom half of my swing in order. Then I work my way up to my full swing, and hit at least a few balls with every club, working my way up and ending with the driver.
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Congratulations! That's great you were able to do it a little under pressure as well, with the strangers around you. Sometimes I find that brings out the best in your game, because in a way you're turning into a competitor. Anyway, great job, and keep it up! Garrett
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How many Aces for you Guys? Hit my first hole in one today!
garrettdennert replied to RouteBurner's topic in Golf Talk
Congratulations! That's awesome. I've been golfing for 11 years now and am still seeking my first. Even more special that you were able to share it with your son. Garrett -
My lowest round would be a 72 (E). Only happened once though, have flirted with it since.
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I'd recommend Golf Pride Tour Velvet, as they seem to have the perfect balance of softness. Before I bought my newest set of irons last year I made sure to have these grips on there. Lamkins can be a bit rough, I agree, but I also see your point with being too soft. Winn, for example, feels great, and I wish they held up better, but they just don't. So I'd say if you want the best of both worlds, go for Golf Pride. From what I understand they're very customizable too. Good luck! Garrett Dennert
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Good points, and I agree, it's easy to overlook that as a lower handicapper. However, in the story I use from my post above, the people I speak of have been playing for as long as I have, and actually showed me how to play the game. They just are stubborn and ignorant, which is their own problem and shouldn't affect my views on "higher handicappers" as a whole. I think the reason why they play for the "ballsy" shot is because of their ego. Who knows, really? Garrett Dennert
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Not weird at all. If that's what you feel comfortable with, go for it. Just make sure to keep working on your driver "behind the scenes" I guess, meaning at the range. When I was playing in high school, we'd have practices where all we were able to carry was our favorite iron and our putter, just to see how versatile each club was and what we could do with it. I tee off with irons all the time, usually only pulling the driver or 3 wood out on a longer par 4 or a par 5. Keep at it. Garrett
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I completely agree. In my usual foursome I still get picked on for pulling as low of a 5-iron off of the tee on a sever dogleg right where you can shoot the gap with a driver if you're feeling brave. "Why you hittin' an iron?" they ask. I hit my shot, ends up in the fairway with a straight shot at the green. They step up to the tee with their driver, slice it to the right into the brush. "That's why," I say. It seems like it's routine for people to yank the driver on anything other than a par 3. Similar things happen when someone is behind a tree and their best option would be to chip out into the fairway. Instead, they whack away, hoping that their ball will get high or low enough to escape the situation unscathed. People don't play their odds very often, but want to be Phil Mickelson and pull off miraculous shots. Not sure if this is a fixable thing, but glad you posted something about it. Garrett
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Letting other people hit your clubs...
garrettdennert replied to tristanhilton85's topic in Golf Talk
Depending on the person, I do have a problem with someone hitting my clubs. Some of them, anyway. Golf clubs in a way are an investment, and I've had that investment broken at the hands of others before. One day on a driving range I let my friend hit my new TaylorMade driver (new at the time). He took one swing, hit the the ball with the hosel of the club, and the clubhead went flying off onto the range about 50 yards. Was this his fault? Probably not. Granted, he wasn't a very skilled player, but it was probably just a club malfunction, or a club that was poorly pieced together. Either way, I knew he felt horrible about doing it, so I didn't let him know my discomfort with the club breaking, though it was like $350. I then spent like $50 to get it fixed. I guess my problem with letting other people use my clubs, especially strangers or beginners, is that if they are to break it, I know they're going to feel horrible about it, and therefore I'd rather have the malfunction happen to me. When you're swinging someone else's club at the ground at 100 MPH, even if you make decent contact, something may happen to the club. It's just natural, and it's just physics, really. I understand where you're coming from, as well as the man who said no after bragging about the driver. I think you have a good attitude towards it though, just a learning experience to keep in mind for the next time it happens. Take care. Garrett Dennert -
Many times throughout a round I feel rushed, whether it's my playing partner themselves, or the group behind us right on our heels. The most important thing is to always remain in your element, meaning obviously to not let it bother you. It's much easier said than done though. Because I've golfed competitively before (high school) at that time I was somewhat trained to tune out exterior elements and focus on the game going on between your ears. I'd have random people watching my first tee shot, or trailing me throughout a round. It still bothers me though. It makes you appreciate how good the professionals are under pressure though. I've had it at times where I'm stuck behind what seems to be the slowest group in the world and I play better, though I'm frustrated at the pace. Sometimes it's great to get in a rhythm while you're playing, assuming the group(s) ahead of you aren't slowing you down. But other times, we've been really slowed down and I play better. It's all about finding your "niche," so to speak. This probably didn't help you get anywhere, but it happens to everyone. Take care. Garrett Dennert
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[Balls] Bang for the buck?
garrettdennert replied to aschroeger's topic in Balls, Carts/Bags, Apparel, Gear, Etc.
NXTs aren't a bad choice at all. Pro V1s are an excellent choice for people who don't unintentionally put curve on the ball, but do it on purpose (a la the pros). I'm with ya on keeping things affordable though-- I usually go with either Maxfli Noodles or Nike Karmas. They're soft, perform well for me, and are inexpensive. Hope this helps a bit. Garrett -
I need help with 6-15 foot putts
garrettdennert replied to Unforgiven93's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Maybe I shouldn't be this way, but I'm very anti-spending when it comes to things you should be able to figure out on your own through practice. Sure, some pros have slightly different things to say, but really, did someone before Dave Stockton harp on getting your routine down? I'm sure someone did. Therefore, you need to understand that the problem is you, and only you. Dave Stockton isn't looking over your shoulder, but try to actually approach your putt(s) like he is. Putting is mostly about confidence, which you say you have when you're putting. Great, you've won half the battle. My question to you is: how much are you missing your putts by? A couple inches? A few feet? That will help you determine if it's a combination of mechanics and/or bad reads. If it's mechanics, it's the inches and if it's the feet, it's the read. I still struggle reading putts because there is so much that goes into it, which is why I'd recommend you just go with your gut if you're struggling in that department. As for mechanics, you may be having much ease with the short putts because you don't take the putter back as far. And when you're hitting a lag putt, anything from 3 feet and in is considered a good putt, so even if you waver the clubhead around during your backswing and end up fairly close, you've won that little confidence battle within yourself. With medium-length putts, it's a little different because you absolutely should expect to make them. If you're reading the greens correctly I'd recommend implementing the "Tight=Success" theory that many pros use today. What it means is that you take the putter back a shorter distance, and accelerate through further than you took it back. It might take some getting used to, but it tries to eliminate the wavering hands and clubhead on the backswing. As with any part of golf, especially with putting, you need the clubhead to be square at impact, and the "Tight=Success" theory promotes that. Other than that, make sure you do have your routine down. A practice drill you can use is: The Tee Drill (usually meant for shorter putts, but you stick a tee in the ground in a circle around the hole-- 6 tees to be exact, at whatever distance you want to practice, and place a ball at each tee, then work your way around the circle using the same routine and same stroke, but hitting the putts on different lines.) It's a real simple drill, but it may add a little excitement. Hope this helps. Garrett Dennert