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But you can't see either. So now there's you and a bad guy in the house and you can't see each other. I guess the outcome is in your favor since you know the layout of your house, but it depends on what kind of defense you have at your disposal and your strategic situation/location. If you have no defense, I guess he will just thrash around while you have to hunker down and hope he doesn't find you. I just wonder about if you are a gun owner and a family member comes home late or otherwise unexpectedly sets it off...

I only buy last year's closeouts, although always new. I haven't bought the newest offering since...ever. It's a good compromise between used and latest greatest. Although, I don't know if I can wait for the W/S milled face 1803 putter to go closeout...

I guess it kind of begs the question of how well off are head pros? My CC is a 36 hole full service resort that gets pretty high volume, although they have been undertaking some cost cutting measures lately. I think he must be around a +1...I'm guessing he knows already...

It's weird, when I can find a patch of virgin grass, I find that placing balls at the very side or back edge of the previous divot promotes good ball striking. I think it is just the idea in the back of my head wanting to take a precise divot that helps. But, I've never heard of being directed to do that. I only witness very experienced golfers doing that. Actually, I don't know if the average casual golfer has the wherewithal to do it properly. As for being told to hit it to a certain area, I would have handed him my 4i and asked him to hit a mid trajectory baby push draw for me. If he did it, I would doff my cap and say yes sir, I will do my best.

We have a new head pro, and he is very active, providing services that weren't available before like club maintenance and alteration. He also gives lessons. So, he has given lessons to my stepdaughter, he's getting a new longer shaft for her driver (and he did an informal shaft fitting session on the range), and he is re-gripping my clubs. He's a great guy. Question is, is it appropriate, or is it sort of insulting to tip your head pro for these services?

Reminds me of some people I know...

This sounds easy on paper, and does work with experienced players who play together regularly. With most other 4balls, however, esp if strangers get paired, what usually happens is everyone goes to their ball, then someone notices B is on the green but away, and asks "B, do you want to putt first?" then B looks at A and says "Are you ready or should I putt?" then A says "Go ahead if you're ready" then B says "OK" then there is a moment until C realizes the pin needs to be tended then walks from his ball over to the stick and tends it while B re-reads his putt and then putts, then C puts the stick back in the hole for A and heads back to his ball while A chips and then the flag has to be pulled again. I dunno, might have saved 5 seconds? I know if my wife were player B this would confuse her and make her feel rushed. I still like the idea of a group playing like 4 singles. It would be very fast. And interesting.

Agreed. Even my ADD wife does this. Just, in the name of playing quickly, these jack-offs will keep going and swing ignoring the fact that you were also ready to hit, then jump in their cart (they are husband/wife) and take off. Rinse and repeat. Actually, the group they play with has become accustomed to kind of ignoring them and hitting balls over them, right past them, and very close to them. It's dangerous and not enjoyable. Plus, they just end up waiting at each green for everyone to finish. There is no net savings in time at all. I don't get it. All in the name of 'playing fast'. Actually, a 4 could get around in 2 hrs if each golfer played like a single totally ignoring the others. Why not have all 4 tee off simultaneously on every hole? But, hospital bills would certainly increase from fistfights, clubs to the teeth, and balls to the skull.

No, quite often these two are in sync with the player who is really away - pull clubs at the same time, fine, take practice swings at the same time, fine, but then you address your ball and you notice they are also addressing their ball, and then you go 'OK, I guess Joe is going to hit', and you have to back off and reload. Even if I got to my ball 5 sec later but I'm away, why not just defer to letting me hit since I'm away? Do we have to start carrying stopwatches to see who got to their ball first? It becomes like a frigging race after a while. Not to mention they take off and now everyone else has to deal with them in their line of sight either driving down the fairway or standing by the green. Is this really necessary to save a few seconds here and there? I know it bothers all of my playing partners. They are constantly saying 'Why the f**k is Joe standing 20 ft from the pin when I have a 150 yd shot?!' The common reply is 'Go ahead and hit him'. Is this really how golf should be played?

Actually, I guess I should have said I used to play with them regularly. Not so much anymore!

I think one thing this thread makes clear is that playing fast ready golf is not as black and white, cut and dry, or as simple, as many who are frustrated by slow play maintain. TST and many other golf forums are replete with comments like, 'C'mon man! Just play ready golf! It's so simple!' Well, this scenario being discussed by experienced TSTers illustrates perfectly that it is not always that simple. For a new golfer, maintaining the balance between etiquette and fast play can actually be quite confusing. My wife has adult ADD, and after playing for about 4 yrs, trying to remember grip, posture, alignment, the 20 swing thoughts she has been taught, and then etiquette AND ready play principles on top of all that, can be a little overwhelming for her sometimes. Me, I can play 18 in 2.5 easily with no one in front, but I wish some of those impatient players could realize that it's not that easy for some. I play regularly with a couple folks who will quite often pull up to their drives in a 4ball and just hit immediately pretty much regardless of any of the other players. I will be pulling a club getting ready to hit, and then I notice 30 yds off to my right and slightly ahead they will be doing the same. Now I have to back off, let them hit, and go through my PSR again. They will then drive up the side of the hole while everyone else plays their approaches with them and their cart in their line of sight. They will then chip or putt while everyone else is driving up to the green and then stand there impatiently by the side of the green while we finish up. That kind of crap has got to stop. It's like the Ahole honking his horn in the middle of a traffic jam..

Joe and Steve arrive at the 18th tee all square.The hole is a moderate par 5, and Joe puts one down the middle, while Steve crushes his drive but pulls it left onto the cart path in the trees. Joe then plays conservatively and lays up 20 yd short of the green. He says, "Hey Steve it looks like you're in trouble". Steve says nothing and pulls a club. He leaves the ball on the cart path because he has a perfect opening, and takes a big swing, sending a shower of sparks flying from the concrete. The ball lands on the front of the green and runs up to 8 ft from the hole. Joe says, "Holy sh!t, what club did you hit?" Steve answers, "Your 4 iron".

Let's not forget Kid Charlemagne. The guitar work on all of those songs is just on the edge of my ability to play. He has this way of picking just the right notes without being either obvious or strange. Yes Becker and Fagan were perfectionists. It's what made their sound so polished. They were widely criticized for that, but they couldn't care less what the critics said, and that perfection is what they strived for. Like there is something wrong with musical perfection... I think Aja is one of the greatest compositions/performances ever. Steve Gadd's drumming is amazing. As you said earlier, I could listen to that one over and over and over (and I have).

I have seen where people have pushed their carts over a green, and I always observed that the blades of grass are a bit flattened (which is what allows you to see the tracks) but the surface is not indented like the multiple 1/4" deep craters left by aggressive soft spikes like Addi Zeros (I own a pair - sorry, I didn't know when I bought them).

IMHO, you can keep Axl. Miles does renditions of 'Sweet Child', 'November Rain' and others that have ginormous vocal depth, range, and expression. Personally, I wouldn't spend $200 per ticket to see the reunion. I'm scoping out a new driver...

I love the work he did with Steely Dan. Didn't he cover the leads in 'My Old School'? Impeccable.

Slash has developed his playing skills to ridiculous levels. Axl, not so much. I remember in the past there was really no Slash lead I couldn't play, but I have seen a couple more contemporary performances with Miles Kennedy and others and he now does stuff that makes me go, 'Huh??? WTF was that?' Dave Grohl said if you hang with him you will find there are very few moments every day when he does not have a guitar in his hands..

MSwede you really must be older than dirt. You realize most young'ns have no idea what typesetting is? I remember in HS we actually had a printing press and we had to pick out every letter and manually put them into the press to crank out our HS newspaper. Man, you dragged that memory out of the dim recesses...

You're right...I am surprised. All I observe is that he almost always has Les Habitants relevant and in the running.

Really, really well researched and well stated.

That made me snort.. Actually, it took my old brain a couple seconds to recall what the correct term was. How did someone who confuses 'amphibious' with 'ambidextrous' ever get hired as a journalist...

Well, that was a spanking! Actually, if I weren't born and raised in NY, I would probably be a Habs fan. They are an impeccable organization and Therrien is arguably one of the best coaches in the league.

billy, and forgive me if I have too easily adopted the familiar diminutive of your name, but I loved 'Waiting for Godot'. One of the absurdist classics. I think I was the only one in my HS AP English class who 'got it'.

Haha! I remember reading The Sound and Fury on the advice of my college roomate (who also thought he was a writer), and pretty much going ??? the whole time. I did make it through the entire book though. I think there were like 4 periods in all 300 pages. I much preferred As I Lay Dying...

My fav TW moment is when he pull hooked his drive and held a nice looking finish, but when he saw it was off the map all of a sudden he had a back spasm. Or, how about recruiting a team of guys to move the 500lb loose impediment boulder?