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Sadly, the bulk of those arrested were the, "I saw what was perhaps an injustice" and I want to lend my voice in outrage. They are in fact indirectly pawns, being used by the true trouble makers, who want nothing more than to take full advantage of a situation to loot and burn. Those folks don't live there, they come from outside the scope of those neighborhoods. Now I have to give admiration to the mother who stepped up and went after her son. But now here in lies another serious problem, with the young generation of today. Even though she attempted to raise him right (assumption based on what she did), he still was influenced by the street and those that he associated with. We are dealing with a second generation that has little to no respect for anyone or anything. Where I currently live, OKC, every night on the news it's multiple stories of stabbings, shootings, car jacking, setting someone on fire, home invasions with beatings on women, burglaries being recorded and they look right at the camera and smile. Why, because as I stated in another post, there's no fear of the judicial system or the police. In just the past week or two, within the state, on the news there's been at least 8 officer involved shootings and all were caught on dash cams or body cams and were all justified. Now I can't speak for the rest of you that read this rant, but that's damn scary. A growing segment of our society is becoming totally out of control and extremely dangerous and I'm sure it's happening everywhere. I'll offer just one more personal assessment........................"The worst is yet to come".

This cycle of police vs minorities has been going on for decades. Back in the 60's (during the civil rights movement and the in roads made), nothing changed. Dealings with crime was still up, plus the Black Panther's openly declared war of the NYPD and carried out the threat. During the 70's, under the guise of the Vietnam war, there were lots of demo's that turned into full blown riots, which looting became the prime target of the demonstrators. Now the 80's, with the attempted revamping of the welfare system and again, open riots and looting. You can look up the additional decades if you want, but the same familiar transparent thread that runs through each one is the minority contingent that's hooked on welfare, drugs and crime. It's easy to be lazy and either have stuff handed to you or just go and take it. Now not everybody that demonstrates is under the same umbrella as the looters. Some really want truthful answers, but someone's truth can be another's lie, it's all in if you want to believe and if if fits your agenda. Now to follow up on a statement about the rookie cops going overboard. In my personal opinion, cops today are not trained properly. Now here's something that everyone must understand. the training concepts are approved by a panel of senior officers, that are overseen by risk management (Lawyer). The final say is determined by how much could / will it cost if this or this transpires. Here's a kind of worst case item. An officer is more likely to be cleared and justified in using his weapon, because there are / could be determining factors as to why it was used. Now take the same case and instead of using his weapon, he gets into a hard struggle / fight with the person he's attempting to arrest. That person now has cuts and bruises and or maybe a broken bone. Now this become a prime candidate for police brutality. If you've never tried to apprehend someone that does not want to apprehended, it's a hard physical struggle and sometimes the cop is physically over matched and must resort to upping the response in order to protect him / herself. We must remember that the cop always brings the gun into play, when dealing with trying to arrest someone, and if that someone could / can get that gun away from the cop, well even worst things now come into play. There's one more salient point that must be made. Today's society, has no fear of the core judicial system, it has become a revolving door. Go sit in a criminal court room and try and follow the legal speak that transpires. The system is set up for lawyers, by lawyers, for monetary gain. If somehow justice gets served, it's nothing more than a byproduct that was accidentally served up. As for lawsuits against the city and police, it's cheaper for the city to settle claims, even when officers and the department want to contest the allegations. When the bulk of society is against the police, whether it be because of tainted reporting or even factual reports, going before a jury that does not like you (remember their human also), the likely hood of winning your case is not good. To answer the question before it's asked........yes I was a cop.

Back in the day your correct, but there's medical tape now that is very light weight, almost feels like foam and is about 2" to 3" wide. Doesn't take a whole lot to build up and I would suspect it's almost on par weight wise to the SS and other jumbo grips. It's just a heck of a lot cheaper to try, then spending $30 plus on something that may / may not fit you. Just a suggestion for folks, but it's their money......

I forget who the pro was (it may have been B. Nelson) that stipulated that when the downswing starts, you should have the feeling of pulling the club down with the left hand. This will in turn set up a good lag position and then the right hand will automatic take over and produce the power. Now I tried this way back when and it does work, but I was to young and foolish enough to put the time and effort into making it second nature. It does take some getting used to, but if you look at the lag time of the pros in their swings, I'm pretty sure this is what's transpiring.

All good info by WUTiger, but if you are serious about your game and want a serious club fitting, it's a complete process with every club in the bag. Your 3 iron my be 5 degrees up, but your 5 may be only 2 degrees and so on and so forth. As for extending the length of the shafts, that to becomes a point of no return. You can extend to the point where you have to swing a telephone pole stiffness and in doing so, can lose direction and distance. There's always some sort of trade off in these actions. If anyone remembers George Archer PGA Tour back when, he had to really have a deep knee bend at address because his clubs could only be so long. He was if not mistaken around 6'5" - 6'6". But as WUTiger said, go hit the clubs, you may just luck out............ For what it's worth, My son is 6'3" and went to a XX shaft with 2" over. He was all over the place. Re-evaluated and went to just an X shaft at 1" over and 3 degrees upright with the 6 and 8 iron being set 1 degree (No idea why).........

If you want to feel a change at a super low price and do it within minutes, buy some medical tape. Wrap the grip (I think Willie Wood or one of the other Oak Tree guy's did this years ago) and you can go in increments, until it feels suitable. You can change the size all you want and if it's not for you, just peel the tape off.

Just remembe the old saying......"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".....

Here's something additional to ponder. Lots of talk about going to the 3 wood, but perhaps that's could be telling you something. How many have tried a 12 degree driver. I know it's the suggested degree for seniors, but it could help a lot more folks with the correct shaft. When I was in my prime, back in the 20th century, I played with a Hogan 2 wood - 43" - midsize grip and I could bomb it. I fully realize that youth and flexibility played a great part, but if the club is a bad fit, even those attributes can't make up for it. Do yourself a favor and give one a test drive, don't dismiss it because it has a seniors label. You might just stumble over a few tidbits from us old folks and our "I remember when" stories........

I'm sure we's all be surprised, at just how many tour players play with a shorter length driver. It's reported that Tiger uses a 43 1/2" (granted, he's not the best example - swings to hard IMO) but could you imagine if he hit a longer shaft. I think Sergio plays a 43 1/2" also and he's considered one of the best drivers of the ball out there. Anyway, point being, sometime less is more..................

It's not that difficult for metal woods and I assume your hybrids are also metal. I use wet/dry 3M 03003 grit 2000 #3 (clear coat sanding). Wet sanding is preferable, as it will not gouge. It takes a little elbow grease and it's not that quick, but you can see the clear coat and the finish going down to bear metal. Once finished, you can now tape off the shaft at the hosel and any other areas on the sole. Choose your color and spray lightly, several coats, let dry and then at least 2 light coats of clear. All the supplies you need can be had at Walmart. Biggest thing to making it look good is time, don't rush and it should turn out fine. But if your not one for DYI, Golfsmith would be my first choice.

I don't think will retire of his own choosing. but rather because of health issues. He now has a recovering back, that for those of us that have had something similar, we can readily attest that the body is now on Def-con alert. He swings so hard at times, that it's surprising he didn't re-injure himself at the Masters. I thought for sure he broke his wrist, on that one swing when he hit the tree root and I'm sure that the back didn't appreciate it either. I offered an opinion on another thread, in relation to his swing and suggested that perhaps it was time to re-evaluate his swing by powering down and using different equipment, suitable for that swing.

We all know that club head speed equals longer distance. Now, what many don't realize is that it's not all that easy. You have to match up a seriously good body turn (belt buckle facing the target) with another serious amount of wrist lag time on the down swing. I'm sorry to say that the vast majority of golfers, myself included, just are not athletic enough to pull it off. This is not to say that we stop trying, but at some point we must come to the realization that although we can make some small advances, we're not going to become a tour caliber player or even a top ranked amateur.

Uptown Funk, which is current, but I listen to a variety of what would be labeled dance music. If it makes you get off your seat and on your feet...........

Just watched the local news and they stated that the NFL, will set aside 1 billion for claims, from players and families, for injuries related to concussions while playing. It stipulated that the NFL did not provide adequate protection for the players. Now I'm wondering just what kind of impact this may or may not have with other sports.

"ATTENTION" ...........By order of the captain......The floggings will continue until moral improves!.......... And what does Golf spelled backwards spell Flog!!...........

http://www.equip2golf.com/specifications/specifications.html Found this link, hope it helps.

The difference between the two is that in baseball, what they allowed and then changed was because they wanted more scoring and home runs, thus making the game more popular and filling the stands, which in turn meant more revenue. In essence, it made for a playing field that was no longer a dominate factor for pitchers and was supposed to equal the playing field. In golf, it's the opposite. The playing field was for all intensive purposes, equal for those using the putter and now since it's taken away, that equality, if it ever was there is now gone. That putter, regardless of stroke clarification, didn't influence the ball in the same respect as the spit ball did. As for needed to step in because of popularity, there were only a hand full, if that, that used it, but when Scott won the Master's, that looked like the launching pad against it and I'm still of the opinion that outside voices (On Tour and Senior Tour and a couple of heavy weights that shall remain nameless) were extremely vocal to the RB's and was very influential in helping the RB's with their final determination. OK, I've voiced my opinion and I'm sticking to it. You have your's and I respect that, so we'll agree to dis-agree.....

As for the Baseball analogy-----wrong. The foreign substance didn't aid the grip. it influenced the dynamics of the ball as it traveled to home plate. Pine tar or whatever they used actually stayed on the ball. As for the outrage, I personal don't have a dog in the hunt, I just don't like seeing an obvious power play against a select few.

Really, a child doing something and you enforce a policy!!...........Where talking about a tool that was not looked upon with any viewpoint of being illegal or detrimental to the game. You can't for go 20+ years of use and not think that it's time to put a policy in place because we just didn't care about it earlier. I'm sorry, but that thought process just smacks of entitlement by behind the scenes forces. Truth be told, I'd bet that those tour players that wanted to litigate at the outset of this farce, where most likely informed it would not be in the best interest to do so. But here's a better analogy for you........Plumbers union officials decree that only crescent wrenches are authorized for use and pipe wrenches are hereby forbidden...........sounds stupid doesn't it..........so does the decree on the stroke/putters It's fine for people to change their minds, but when it impacts the lively hood of the few in order to placate the many (In this case the tour players), to me is biased favoritism. I've tried the long putter and in truth, there's a heck of a lot more going on with it, stroke wise, than most folks think and it's not all for the good. Went back to the standard putter, but at least that option was available. But I can still go out and get that new $400 driver that will give up an additional 15 to 20 yds and that new set of irons that I can now reach that pesky 190 yd par 3 with a 7 iron and last but not least, the new and even better improved ball, that is more forgiving on spin rate because of new dimples or it's the new fast core or maybe it's the new french polymer cover that is great off the driver and spins like crazy on the greens. I could go on ranting, but lets face it, we'll just agree to dis-agree.

In essence, that statement proves the point. It was OK back when, but low and behold it became popular. Now in reality, wouldn't one think that someone or some few voiced a protest and it only would have any weight if money was involved (ie; Pro Tour), otherwise why would it even come to the attention of the RB's

If I actually cared to debate the subject of being swayed by better known players, but in a nut shell the Ping groves come to mind and if memory serves, Jack, Palmer and the players association were very vocal to both ruling bodies. Only reason the USGA settled was because Ping had the balls to sue them. R&A; being not being under abiding U.S. law was not a player. As far as the putter or the stroke, again, it was regardless of either contention, legal when first used 20+ years ago. To me and I'm sure other's, what the ruling bodies are now legislating is wrong. But as stated several times in my previous post................it's an opinion.

This was not the adjustable head/shaft combo, but just one of the many drivers he had in the demo bag. Still frustrates me when I think about it.

EVERY TIME I BREAK IT!!!...........

Personally, I dislike a finishing hole (front or back) being a par 3. Don't really know why, I just do. Opinions............

I've not gone through the 100+ pages of posts, because I'm only offering a personal opinion. The long putter has been in use for over 20 years and in my (again) opinion, if the ruling bodies had heartburn with it, it should have been banned at inception. Now remember, this is (again) opinion, but I think the manufactures had a hand in this from the beginning, as they now were able to offer something new at a fairly high price for what it was, a putter with nothing more than a longer length of metal. Why, at this stage of the game does the term illegal have to come into play. Me thinks that some of the better known players (think conspiracy) for whatever rational, brought forth an argument for banning, to the powers that be and under whatever pressure that was there, the powers ruled in favor of the collective Nay Sayers. I realize that what I've put forth has more than likely been echoed a few times, but it just pisses me off that something so blatantly political in nature, has to take center stage in the game we all love........... We now will resume normal broadcasts...................