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All of the OEMs make clubs for seniors as though all seniors were high handicappers and/or beginners. What about senior players who have skills but reduced flexibility and swingspeed?

I am a 63 year old player in my 51st season of golf playing to an 8.3 index. It is impossible for me to buy modern clubs from a major OEM or component manufacturer. I can only buy gear fitted by high end boutique clubmakers who charge ludicrous prices.

This is what the OEMs make for seniors--modern strong lofts that don't correspond to the number/loft correlations with which seniors are accustomed, upright lie angles and closed faces on metalwoods as if all seniors slice, and loft increments that are too close together for a senior's swingspeed.

As a public service, here are my custom specs (13 clubs, all except putter)for OEMs to use so they won't continue to look as thoiugh they don't have a clue, which sadly, they don't.


WOODS
driver: 14° loft, 55° lie, 1° open face, 44"
strong fairway wood: 18.5° loft, 56° lie, 1° open face, 42½"
lofted fairway wood: 23° loft, 56.5º lie, 1º open face, 42"

IRONS / WEDGES
5-iron: 26° loft, 60.5° lie, 38"
6-iron: 31° loft, 61° lie, 37½"
7-iron: 36° loft, 61.5º lie, 37"
8-iron: 41° loft, 62° lie, 36½"
9-iron: 46° loft, 62.5° lie, 36"
pitching wedge: 51º loft, 63° lie, 6° bounce, 35½"
gap wedge: 56° loft, 63° lie, 8º bounce, 35½"
lob wedge: 61° loft, 63º lie, 4° bounce, 35½"

UTILITY IRONS:
dedicated driving iron, 19° loft, 59° lie, 39½"
dedicated sand iron: 59° loft, large oval face, very curved leading edge

Professional clubmakers and fitters, your comments would be very welcome.

post script:
Woods have UST ProForce V2 75 HL (R-flex) shafts.
Irons and wedges have Aldila NV Pro 105 (R-flex) shafts
Grips are Winn Excel RF
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A Mizuno rep told me a few weeks ago that they actually make matching heads to all their irons that are designed to take graphite shafts, so that the swing weight would match. I don't know if other companies are doing this, too, but I would be surprised if they don't have some sort of option.
While the PW isn't quite 50-51°, theirs are a lot closer than, say, the Cobra set with a 43-degree pitching wedge or Wilson with a 42-degree pitching wedge. The MP-57, for instance, is 47 degrees and the MP-67 is 48.

I agree that getting custom clubs is a pain if you're far from the norm. It wasn't as tough for me as it was for you, but I was looking for players' irons in R-flex. At the time, I was 24 and in my second season.

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

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what a predicament...
i think id buy players clubs and just get them reshafted unless the price is round about the same as custom clubs... either or...
i know a few guys that are in your shoes... my uncle just got a full set and thats pretty much what he did... he's in his late 60's but has been a single digit forever
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This is not an issue specific to seniors, although it's only a matter of time before only seniors will remember when a pitching wedge was 50 degrees and there was no such thing as a gap wedge. Don't worry about the number on the bottom of the club.

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