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I have been tweaking around with the tee up height for the driver.

As my swing isn't really consistent (I think none of us can really say it is) I have trouble fiding the exact height ball after ball after ball .....

So after a previous thread I focussed on teeing up the ball at a level where the center of the ball matches the top edge of my driver's face, as most drivers tend to produce longer balls when hit slightly above the center sweetspot.

Problem is that if I hit it just a tiny bit to high on the face, balls go up a mile orso and then you can only be pleased with the fact, you hit the fairway for sure at 150 yds out.....

Now I am teeing it up a little lower, but how low would be optimal ..... ?

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You will launch it higher the higher you hit the ball on the clubface, because the clubface is curved.

Everything has to be compared to the other factors at hand, like angle of attack, driver loft, ball speed, spin rate etc. It's hard to work on such a small detail without using a launch monitor.

You could be losing distance by teeing it lower, or you could be gaining. We can't say how high (or low) you should tee it without knowing the launch conditions. One way to find out is by experimenting yourself.

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In general if your driver is 400cc - less than 460cc you should be teeing it up so half a ball is above the crown.  If it is a 460cc you need about 2/3rds above the ball.  Its to help you sweep it on the upswing and to hit just above the middle of the driver where the sweetspot is.  It also does depend on your angle of attack etc as well.

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Originally Posted by broombroom

In general if your driver is 400cc - less than 460cc you should be teeing it up so half a ball is above the crown.  If it is a 460cc you need about 2/3rds above the ball.  Its to help you sweep it on the upswing and to hit just above the middle of the driver where the sweetspot is.  It also does depend on your angle of attack etc as well.



You can't make general statements based solely on the size of the clubhead. There are many factors involved in this.

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I went through this about a month ago. I read an article about the need for increased tee height with the 460cc.  I decided to try it, nothing to lose.

My drives went easily 20yds further and straighter.

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I found this article form Kevin Downey of Innovex Golf at the W3, what do you think of it ?

The key to hitting the ball farther with the modern driver and golf ball (which spins much less off of a flat face than balls of the past) is high launch combined with a low spin rate. Our goal is to get enough spin to achieve lift, while minimizing (hopefully eliminating) drag.

Assuming that you have a driver with enough loft, here are four things that you can do to increase launch angle and decrease spin rate, thus increasing your distance off the tee:

Tee the Ball Higher
The old adage has always been that the top of the driver should be about halfway up the ball when it is teed up. However, with a 460cc driver, I like to see you set the ball high enough on a peg such that the top of the driver is no more than one-third of the way up the ball. Of course, this means that the standard 2 1/8-inch tee will not be long enough to accommodate. You will need a tee at least 3 inches in length, but likely a little longer than this.

Move the Ball Forward in Your Stance
(Towards your left foot for a right-handed golfer)
The notion of playing the ball off of your left heel is no longer valid. We want to hit the ball on the upswing, thus increasing launch angle and decreasing the ball's spin rate. In order to do this, we must move the ball forward in our stance. For some golfers, it will be enough to play the ball off of your big toe, while for others it may be necessary to move the ball all the way up so that it is positioned outside of your left foot. Experiment with different ball positions – but, whatever you do, move the ball forward in your stance!

Set Up to Hit the Ball on the Center of the Face
Most golfers set their driver on the ground at address. This results in a high percentage of driver shots being hit on the heel-side of the face, especially when we tee the ball higher. Test yourself this way: The next time you are at the range and set up to hit your driver, once in the address position
stretch your arms out and move the club up to the ball's height. Notice where the ball is going to contact the face of your driver? On the heel side – or possibly the hosel – of your driver.

This is a very common problem for golfers – and it's an awkward adjustment. The solution is very simple, however. Instead of setting your driver behind the ball such that the center of the face is aligned with the ball, move backwards a couple of inches (towards your back) such that the toe of your driver is aligned with the ball. Now do the test again. Stretch out your arms and pick the club up to the ball's height. Is the ball aligned with the center of the driver face? If so, put the club back down and fire! If not, keep moving back until it is.

Don't worry that once you set the driver down it doesn't align with the ball. The ball isn't on the ground - it's three inches above the ground!

Hit the Ball on the Upswing
The driver is now a specialty club, much like a putter. Our set-up
, ball position – everything is different from any other club in the bag. You shouldn't be hitting the ball at the bottom – or apex – of the golf swing like a fairway wood. The ball should be struck past this point, on the upswing. This will lead to a higher launch angle and lower spin rate – which is how we are going to hit the ball farther than we ever have before.

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In the June Golf Digest (p. 46), Hank Haney tells about the risks to the average golfer of teeing the ball too high for drives. Haney advises a lower tee level than Downey does:

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... It's good to hit your tee shots with a sweeping swing, but you're risking a lot of trouble teeing it high, without much benefit. With the ball way up, you create a lot more room to hit the side or bottom of it with an open or closed cluface or a bad swing path. That's where some of those wild pulls and pushes come from. When you have to hit a straight drive, keep the top of the ball level with the top of the driver. You'll still get plenty of distance, and catching the ball lower on the face will reduce your chances of hitting too much on the inside or the outside of the ball. This will help eliminate those really wild drives.

I've tried this on the range, and the drives feel hotter and carry a bit lower. I'll give an update if the rains stop enough I can actually play.

Also on Downey, I'm leery of playing the ball too far forward. More height on my drives is not what I need.

Note: I offer this for what it's worth. I don't claim Haney as my guru or anything like that.

(Edit corrects month of GD article)

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That is the nice thing in golf, guru A says high for length, and guru B says low for straight drives

So I guess we'll have to figure this out by ourselfs !!!!

Sofar I have had best results with the Pride PTS Prolength tees (2 3/4" white/yellow) that I push into the ground till the the yellow band exactly disapears in the ground ....... with my 909 D3 the top of the face matches the middle of the ball, but I also have a Hibore XLS and I have been tinkering with the Prolength Plus tees (3 1/8" white/blue) to bring the ball up at the higher face, that is where many problems come from, maybe I don't know but now they are going like hell 300+ with a nice high trajectory, but the next might go 30 yds to the right and the distance is still good. But I am getting a bit upset, playing from the next fairway at 6/14 holes.

Yesterday I hit actually only 2/10 fairways, before I left it in the bag and was in the center fairway hitting around 210-220 with my hybrid.......

I sometimes use the Shorttee version (its intended use is FW woods, etc.) but when teeing up low, I have a tendecy to hit down at the ball ....... other problems.

Anyway I am going to the range today to figure out my personal best tee height, it would not surprise me if the outcome for both drivers will be the 2 3/4" white/yellow ones, but I might aswell work with the Haney Tip.

CU, Gerald.

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