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how to shoot lower scores?

post #1 of 88
Thread Starter 

I have been playing golf for about 3 years now got myself to 20 handicapp, have a slight over the top swing, shot shape is usually about 10-15yd fade with driver 3 wood 3,4,5i, hit the rest straight but sometimes turns into a slice if i am having a bad day.

Ok putter, mediocre short game, terrible bunker player.

Average shot distance is usally about:

 

Driver 240yd

3 wood 220yd

3 iron 200yd

4 190yd

5180yd

6170yd

7160yd

8145yd

9135yd

P 120yd

S 95yd

L 60yd

 

I am curious as to what i need to do in order to shoot lower scores?, whether it be working on my swing to eliminate the fade or working on my short game and bunker shots or even trying to get more power and hit longer shots.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

post #2 of 88
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I am curious as to what i need to do in order to shoot lower scores?, whether it be working on my swing to eliminate the fade or working on my short game and bunker shots or even trying to get more power and hit longer shots.

 

 

All of the above (except dont worry about more power)

 

and good putting helps too...

post #3 of 88
Thread Starter 

lol yeah i figured that but is there any particular part which is more important that the rest in you opinion that will help me get there faster or just need to improve the whole think as a package?

post #4 of 88

I agree with working on all of it but if there was one in particular, the short game is the best way to lower scores. 

post #5 of 88

How often have you played over that 3 year period.

 

Other 'tuning' can help,  but the best way to lower your score initially is to play A LOT.

post #6 of 88
We hit the same distances, except I can't hit 3 and 4 irons. I use a fairway wood at half swing or 4 rescue/hybrid, and I can only do a 3/4 swing on the 5 iron for a distance of only 175 yards.

Usually, it's a bad drive then trying to recover from it that hurts me the most.

Your distances would be perfect on the courses I play in the Los Angeles area.

I hurt my shoulder so all I could do is putt and chip. So, for 4 months, that's all I practiced. This seemed to lower my scores by about 5 strokes per round.

Doglegs hurt as well, so learning to purposely drawing and fading the ball would help. I can't do it. However, when looking at where my balls land and the geometry of the courses I play, it seems like that would gain an extra 20 yards or so from a drive.

Take a look at what the scratch and single digit handicappers are writing on other threads.They are really impressive.

It seems like a totally different game from what I am trying to play.
post #7 of 88
Guys.. save me..

I have no wedges except for a pitching wedge a gap wedge..and a sand wedge..

Right when I'm 70 yards or closer... i know im screwed.. i have no answer for it.. i need wedges but i have no money for them.. and the fact that i need them ruin my game every single time. The sand wedge cant do anything for me..wrong shape..weight..its junk.

It's a horrible feeling..especially when im playing with others..
post #8 of 88
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Originally Posted by Goonsidious View Post

Guys.. save me..
I have no wedges except for a pitching wedge a gap wedge..and a sand wedge..
Right when I'm 70 yards or closer... i know im screwed.. i have no answer for it.. i need wedges but i have no money for them.. and the fact that i need them ruin my game every single time. The sand wedge cant do anything for me..wrong shape..weight..its junk.
It's a horrible feeling..especially when im playing with others..

Used wedges can be pretty cheap ($20 or less if you look hard enough), and you can get pretty decent wedges fairly cheap as well as I've seen 3 wedge sets from Adams as low as $100... maybe skip a round or two and invest in something like that.

post #9 of 88

Short game is the key.  I have learned to chip with all of the wedges (I have a pitching, gap, and sand) plus I can chip with a 8 or 9 iron from 50-70 yards out with good accuracy. 

post #10 of 88

I just bought a used Cleveland 56* for $20 from the pro shop at my home course. About 2 years ago I got a Vokey 52* off ebay, with shipping it came to right at $50. Inexpensive wedges are out there.

post #11 of 88

I'll be on the lookout, thanks gents. 

 

now to find out which degrees are best. 30 yard bloopers that are able to stop on a dime-ish.

post #12 of 88
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Originally Posted by Goonsidious View Post

Guys.. save me..
I have no wedges except for a pitching wedge a gap wedge..and a sand wedge..
Right when I'm 70 yards or closer... i know im screwed.. i have no answer for it..

And then...

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Originally Posted by Goonsidious View Post
...now to find out which degrees are best. 30 yard bloopers that are able to stop on a dime-ish.

 

IMO, you already have more than enough wedges.  And at this point you would be best off saving the '30 blooper that stops on a dime' for the range.  I'd recommend picking either your pitching wedge or your gap (if you're comfortable with it), and using that for all your shots within 70 yards.  Try to develop 3/4, 1/2, and 1/4 swings, and then practice using your pitching wedge with a putting stroke (ball back in the stance) when you're relatively close to the green.

post #13 of 88
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Originally Posted by Roblar View Post

And then...

 

IMO, you already have more than enough wedges.  And at this point you would be best off saving the '30 blooper that stops on a dime' for the range.  I'd recommend picking either your pitching wedge or your gap (if you're comfortable with it), and using that for all your shots within 70 yards.  Try to develop 3/4, 1/2, and 1/4 swings, and then practice using your pitching wedge with a putting stroke (ball back in the stance) when you're relatively close to the green.

This..^  Listen too Roblar...dead on advicec2_beer.gif

post #14 of 88

The most dramatic way to shave strokes is in the short game.  Whether you prefer a hook or slice isn't relevant..........just keep it in play.

post #15 of 88
I believe that the short game is the easiest way to improve your score, but the best way is probably to work on both short and long shots.

I remember this article was linked an a pervious thread a while ago, and I found it very interesting. Kinda makes me rethink the whole "short game is the best way to improve score".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/21/sports/golf/21pennington.html?_r=1
post #16 of 88
Thread Starter 

about twice a week im from the uk so from november-february i dont play at all because of the shitty weather.

post #17 of 88
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about twice a week im from the uk so from november-february i dont play at all because of the shitty weather.

try getting out to practice once or twice a week in addition to the rounds you play...there is a thread (65/25/10) that debates how you should spend your practice time.  Improving your bunker play will make you a bit more consistent and shouldn`t be that hard to do, but likely won`t lower your handicap by more than a shot or two.

 

If  I was in your shoes, I would work on learning 1 bunker shot (open club, open stance hit 3 inches behind and follow through) so that you know that you can get it out and onto the green almost every time and also spend some time on some basic chip shots.  Until you can say you have at least an average short game, spend 50% on long game, 40% on short game and 10% on putting.

post #18 of 88

I'm in the same exact boat. About 3 years, high handicap. Similar distances too.

 

I've been really frustrated with instructors. Several hundred dollars paid and no real help. Okay, I'll give 1 guy some credit for improving my putting. But my swing has no consistency whatsoever. In fact, as I've improved my knowledge of the mechanics of the swing, its clear I've been given poor advice on numerous occasions (not that I'm the only one who's received bad advice).

 

I've decided that I can't rely on feel alone to figure out this golf swing. I'm taking video of my swing now. Its incredible how you can think you are doing one thing but in reality you are awkward as hell. I've observed several problems with my rhythm I can work on as well as stance, head, arm and wrist positions. Honestly some of these problems are fundamental enough they should have been pointed out to me by one of these pros I was paying. I tried out some changes last week with the driver and felt a difference in power and even a greater % of straight shots. I'll likely shoot some more video this week. I don't know if I'm qualified to recommend video yet as I'm still waiting for the benefits, but it's nice to have a new tool to try. I'm a visual person, so having a picture to look at helps me get a sense of what to do to fix it.

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