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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

I've been Playing Golf for:​ 8 months

My current handicap index or average score is: NA

My typical ball flight is: Vary

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Slice and Curve

 


 

Videos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The above videos were shot after 4 months I took a 10 hours beginner course.

post #2 of 26
Thread Starter 

FO with Iron 7

 

 

 

 

My body is very stiff and it's not turning. Shots were inconsistent, topping, chopping and slicing most of the times.

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

Frustrated with my swing, I decided to seek a one-to-one coaching from a Pro in Pattaya, Thailand during my one week vacation in Thailand. I had 5 hours of lesson with him and he managed to point out some mistakes that I had been making ie. waist not turning, downswing initiated by arms, arc too small and etc.

 

And below are the results after the changes,

 

FO with Iron 7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After the lessons, I was still having problem with consistency. I am still experiencing slicing most of the times, though the hit rate is a little better. Also, I encountered topping the ball most of the times as well. My coach told me that my right arm is not straight during the impact, which was causing the slicing. However, as I was watching my videos, I realised that my left arm was retracted in a very awkward position at the followthrough, and I wonder whether this is the main cause of my slice.

 

Furthermore, I watched quite a number of Pros videos, and saw that their left arm maintain straight for a moment after impact.

 

More videos.

post #4 of 26
Thread Starter 

Here are some more videos shot in slow motion:

 

FO with Iron 7:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DL with Iron 7:

 

 

 

 

Hope with all these videos, some of you can point out to me on where and how I should do to improve on my swing.

 

Thanks in advance!

post #5 of 26
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Two more videos taken last night after a short break from swing practise.

 

With Iron 7 FO:

 

 

 

 

With Iron 7 Down The Line:

 

 

 

 

Swing getting a little rusty after the break.

 

But the last few shots (DL) were better, after I squat a little. I also find by turning my wrist during the impact helps to make my ball fly straight. Can anyone advice on this?

post #6 of 26

Very simple fix. On the backswing you or rotating the hands pulling the club way inside. You want to feel that you are hinging your wrist's straight up in the air almost as if you are picking the club straight up. It sounds crazy but it will get you in a better position and hitting ball first because from what im seeing in these videos you may struggle with contact.

post #7 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenGolf19 View Post

Very simple fix. On the backswing you or rotating the hands pulling the club way inside. You want to feel that you are hinging your wrist's straight up in the air almost as if you are picking the club straight up. It sounds crazy but it will get you in a better position and hitting ball first because from what im seeing in these videos you may struggle with contact.


Thanks, I also realised that I was over extending in my back swing.

Perhaps it was due to my left arm flexing or my backswing was rather too fast.
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Here's a comparison pic I did using V1 Golf Analysis.

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I noticed most pros maintained their triangle during the followthrough. The left arm collapsed only when the shoulders stopped turning.

I am trying to find out what is the reason for my left arm not able to stay straight after impact.

Could it be the plane during the followthrough? Downswing?

Is my shoulders not fast enough?

Thanks!
post #9 of 26

One thing I noticed right away is how stiff you look at address. Try to loosen up and let your arms hang straight down (check out the pic of Rory below), it will free up your back swing and make it easier to cock your wrists up which will lessen the amount the club goes inside on your takeaway. BenGolf makes a good point with the feel of the wrist hinge also, and it's something I've had to fix in the past. It really is true when they say feel ain't real..

 

 

He has his arms hanging down and relaxed, setting up a proper backswing.

post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
Ben & Mamba,

thanks for the reply.

I tried to search for videos on the wrist hinge, the video mainly revolves around the L-shaped arm at the takeaway. Is that what you guys are talking about?

Can anyone of you point me to some videos for cure?

Thanks!
post #11 of 26
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Here's a new video I took just 3 days ago.
post #12 of 26

The swing is looking better, post a down the line video if you can to check on posture and plane. It also looks like you're struggling to get your weight forward (on your left side) for the downswing. Your hips are spinning out and your right heel is coming up, sapping power from your swing. Check out this thread for a better explanation of getting your weight forward on the downswing: http://thesandtrap.com/t/29616/the-biggest-secret-slide-your-hips/540

post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 

With Iron 7 - Face On

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by eyz4eva View Post

http://youtu.be/DgI0zpBWBNc

Here's a new video I took just 3 days ago.

 

Video Embedded.

post #14 of 26
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You are right on Mamba, I did noticed my right heel coming up, but I did not think much about.

 

I was taught on the hip slide, but totally forgot about. I had a look at the thread and it was really beneficial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MambaGolfer View Post

The swing is looking better, post a down the line video if you can to check on posture and plane. It also looks like you're struggling to get your weight forward (on your left side) for the downswing. Your hips are spinning out and your right heel is coming up, sapping power from your swing. Check out this thread for a better explanation of getting your weight forward on the downswing: http://thesandtrap.com/t/29616/the-biggest-secret-slide-your-hips/540

 

Meanwhile, I went for another practice today. I am still experiencing problem with my leading arm after impact. I can feel the awkward twist on my left arm during the followthrough.

 

I searched online for the reason for the bent left arm at impact and got the following:

 

Quote:

It's a power leak and will cause alot of problems with consistent ball striking-but you already know that.

To answer your question, swinging more inside to out at impact will help you straighten that left arm and you will almost immediately notice more consistency and distance. You mentioned scooping, yes it could cause that but to get to the root of the problem, the swing path produces the bent left arm, ie. more out to in. Also, the swing should be a smooth coil but instead I see chicken wingers sway or if they coil, they are putting way too much effort into the downswing and also, not getting off their right side on their downswing.
Here are things you can try:
get a swing thought for awhile until it becomes natural that you should try to straighten your left arm coming into impact.
coil on your backswing then simply allow your body to uncoil
get off your right side beginning with the downswing, not suddenly at the end, good weight transition will help
swing more in to out on the downswing
make sure your hands lead the way on the downswing rather than your clubface
don't put alot of effort into your downswing, it's simply a result of the backswing stored energy not a sudden umph.
hope this helps.

 

 

I am not so sure what did it meant by swinging more inside to outside? Can anyone help me out?

 

Anyway, below are the DTL videos with Iron 7.

 

post #15 of 26

Can't see the video, not sure why. But swinging in to out is relative to the path. Think of swinging "out" as stretching out to your right, the club is coming across the ball at a slightly diagonal angle. If your target was north, think of an in to out swing as being ever so slightly northeast. An inside to outside swing helps with hitting draws, whereas an outside to inside swing helps with hitting a fade. There is no one proper swing path, it's just that cutting across the ball (i.e. out to in) can lead to shanks, pulls, slices, etc.

post #16 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MambaGolfer View Post

Can't see the video, not sure why. But swinging in to out is relative to the path. Think of swinging "out" as stretching out to your right, the club is coming across the ball at a slightly diagonal angle. If your target was north, think of an in to out swing as being ever so slightly northeast. An inside to outside swing helps with hitting draws, whereas an outside to inside swing helps with hitting a fade. There is no one proper swing path, it's just that cutting across the ball (i.e. out to in) can lead to shanks, pulls, slices, etc.

Thanks, I got what you mean. At the same time, I googled and found aome swing path pictures describing some of the different swing path.


I am already having problem with fade and slice ball flight. I'm afraid that if I were to do more inside out approach, my fade and slice problem will get worse. I am currently trying to tackle my fade and slice by turning my wrists at impact.

Anyway, here's the video again.

2 shot with 7 Iron - Down The Line
post #17 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyz4eva View Post

I am already having problem with fade and slice ball flight. I'm afraid that if I were to do more inside out approach, my fade and slice problem will get worse. I am currently trying to tackle my fade and slice by turning my wrists at impact.
 

 

You should have a read about the ball flight laws to help you diagnose what is happening based on your ball flight. 

 

http://thesandtrap.com/b/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws

 

Swinging more right (in to out) will reduce the amount of fade and slice that you get.

post #18 of 26
Sorry to post here but i font know how to create my own post..my Q is...how can I have more flexion at p6?!
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