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My Swing (RandallT)

post #1 of 16
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I've been Playing Golf for: 20 years, but focused only for the past two seasons

My current handicap index or average score is: 11.3

My typical ball flight is: Was OTT/Slice, but now more draws unless I revert back

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Pull hook or hit fat from fairway

 


Videos:

I cringe when I see these, because I think I reverted my swing back a little bit, just due to the filming. But if this is how I swing when I am aware I'm being filmed, these must be my natural tendencies. I felt like my wrists kept breaking down and I was going past parallel. I could see the club in my peripheral vision on the left for most of these.

 

Driver Down the Line

 

Driver Face On

 

Six Iron Down the Line

 

Six Iron Face On

 

post #2 of 16
Nice swing but a little to much sliding back and thru not enough hip rotation
post #3 of 16
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Agreed!
post #4 of 16
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I see why I hit it fat a lot lately- my head is all over the place as I sway. My left arm and wrist are not very controlled.  Man, I need to do video more often! I swear at my last lesson a while back, we had mostly gotten rid of all that. Amazing how old habits tend to creep right back into the swing.

post #5 of 16

Hey RandallT,

 

Not sure if this video will help, but I think it could give you a few good thoughts at the range.  Plus the instructor has A LOT of great videos on youtube.

 

post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 

 

I haven't gotten outside with a club yet this year, but I just submitted these to Evolvr to start the learning process for 5SK. I think I've got some work to do, but it's a start. Comments always welcome. 

post #7 of 16
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My attempt at analysis before I get any feedback from Evolvr:

 

1. Head not steady. In FO view, it goes back and up on the backswing. Down and forward on downswing. 

 

2. Weight not transferring forward onto front foot like I see in videos. Some weight shift but I need to practice exaggerrated shift so that I can get it ingrained

 

3. Too much sway

 

4. Flipping hands, I think. Need better camera to capture each frame with less blur.

 

5. Falling forward. In the DTL view, my butt moves dramatically toward the ball on the downswing.

 

6. Extension at impact and followthrough looks timid. Need to get hips and chest pulling body upward like I see in Mike video. I'm facing things forward at end, not upward like his tutorial.

 

Probably tons more, but that's the stuff that jumps out at me. 

post #8 of 16

Stand with your heels almost touching a wall. Take your stance without your butt touching the wall.

 

Notice your stance in DL - your weight is well back on your heels.

post #9 of 16
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Thanks! I'll work on that.
post #10 of 16
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I got a quick reply from Evolvr (very impressed). Quick meaning that it was sooner than I expected. The reply itself was QUITE detailed. I'll be working strictly on 4 things until the next submission:

 

1. Posture. Weight shouldn't be so much on my heels. Less knee flex at address. Stand straighter. I'll also review the many excellent posture videos here to make sure I'm not getting some other aspect of posture out of whack.

 

2. More shaft lean at address. 

 

3. Straighten up right leg at top of backswing, getting better angles for my hips and shoulders (pointing downward, less flat)

 

4. Grip check, primarily on left hand. I'll upload via video where my left hand is next time so that he can see better where I'm placing it.

 

Lastly, I need to get outside and do real swings, not timid ones. I nearly hit my ceiling fan here!  If anyone has further comment, I'll take it onboard, but not get distracted from the 4 things here. It looks my guesses as to what I needed to focus on would have led me in the wrong direction. I suspect that these 4 things here will build the correct foundation from which to address the mess of things I had in Post #7 above. I'm glad to get expert advice, rather than try to self-diagnose!

post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by RandallT View Post

 

1. Posture. Weight shouldn't be so much on my heels. Less knee flex at address. Stand straighter. I'll also review the many excellent posture videos here to make sure I'm not getting some other aspect of posture out of whack.

 

3. Straighten up right leg at top of backswing, getting better angles for my hips and shoulders (pointing downward, less flat)

 

Good to hear. Yes make sure to do the posture drill @iacas suggested, will help with #3. If the weight is favoring the heels, tough to turn the hips and shoulders steep enough because the right knee will want to retain it's flex for balance.

 

Couple good examples

 

post #12 of 16
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Thanks, Mike. I appreciate the extra info- makes sense. I'm definitely working on Erik's tip and trying to get my posture better. Eye opening how far back I was settled.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 

Evolution of my posture in one month.  

First two shots during Feb/March when it was tough to get to range. Weight on heels. Grip awkward. Club leaning back at address a bit.  After lots of drills with my butt against the wall, you can see where I stand in early April (see the orange shirt outside). It looks better to me. Weight more forward, hands look better. On my backswing, my right leg is straightening more naturally now, whereas before I kept my kneeflex pretty much locked. 

 

At the range, the ball flight is more consistent, I think, but I've yet to see if I can bring this to the course. I look forward to April 6, TST Mid-Atlantic outing.

 

 

Next steps: 

Bow my knees out a bit to match my foot flare. 

Continue all of the things in the first analysis above. Plus:

Work on getting the club to "lay down" at the start of the downswing. When my arm gets to parallel (A5), the club should point outside the ball. Mine is currently well inside. 

Practice hitting to the right of an alignment rod that is straight in front of me at the range. Get that in to out sensation of hitting the ball out to the right. 

post #14 of 16
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SEXY! :beer:

post #15 of 16
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  Carry Total Swing Speed Ball Speed Spin Axis Axis tilt Launch Vert Height Time in Air Shape
  255 274 101.2 151.2 2080 9.8 R 10.5 74 5.9 fade
  260 269 101.6 152.5 2864 7 R 13.1 108 7 fade
  253 269 102.4 152.7 2478 16.6 R 10.5 77 6.1 slice
  255 265 99.9 150.1 1972 15.7 R 14.4 97 6.5 push/slice
  252 262 99.5 149.2 2241 4.3 R 10.6 82 6.4 fade
  246 261 99.7 149.7 2108 9.4 R 11.1 75 6 fade
  258 261 101.8 154.6 3369 8.1 R 14 131 7.5 push/fade
  245 258 100.7 144.6 2098 15.4 R 16.1 95 6.2 push/fade
  252 257 102.1 152.5 2121 9.6 R 13.7 108 6.9 fade
  244 256 106.6 155.2 2384 11.1 R 10.7 77 6 fade
  249 256 102 150.2 2475 11.9 R 13 92 6.5 fade
  240 256 101.2 151.2 2070 14.1 L 12.6 79 5.9 draw
  226 255 103.6 155.2 1564 13.7 L 11 55 4.7 draw
  241 255 104.3 154.4 2164 2 R 10.6 74 5.9 straight
  247 255 101.2 151 2512 13.6 R 14.5 102 6.6 push/fade
  246 254 101.8 151 2237 9.8 R 10.9 79 6.2 fade
  248 254 103 151.7 3255 3.1 R 13.1 108 6.9 fade
  246 254 102.5 144.1 2076 19.4 R 15.7 106 6.7 push/slice
  234 253 100 148.7 1912 16.6 R 11 67 5.5 fade
  226 253 101 150.5 1680 30.4 L 11.1 56 4.9 hook
  247 253 101.7 148.8 2756 21.9 R 16.8 117 6.9 push/slice
  230 250 99.9 149.2 2106 9.1 L 11 65 5.4 draw
  238 250 99.1 148.9 2479 4.6 R 15.3 87 6 fade
  239 249 99.3 147.5 1967 1.4 R 10.9 77 6.2 straight
  240 246 100.9 151.5 3091 13.3 R 10.6 83 6.4 slice
  241 246 102.5 153.7 2691 24.7 R 14.6 114 6.8 push/slice
  227 245 100.4 145.8 2391 22 R 9.4 60 5.4 slice
  239 245 100 148.8 2756 13.3 R 10 85 6.5 slice
  233 244 100.5 151.3 2859 21.1 R 11.2 70 5.7 slice
  229 243 99.6 149.1 1910 11.4 L 11.8 72 5.7 draw
  234 242 102.3 146.3 3391 6.3 R 10.5 83 6.3 fade
  237 241 102.4 149.5 3089 2.3 L 12.1 108 6.9 draw
  232 239 101.5 151.7 2947 21.3 R 10.6 79 6.1 push/slice
  233 239 100.8 148 2520 12 R 9.7 79 6.3 fade
  229 232 105.9 151.3 4941 10.5 R 11.8 119 7.1 slice
  227 232 99.7 146 3730 10.5 R 11.6 93 6.3 fade
  225 231 102.7 149.1 3116 18.5 R 11 76 6 slice
  227 231 103 150.2 5710 9.4 R 14.4 114 6.8 push/fade
  225 229 103.9 150.3 2816 24 R 15.4 114 6.7 push/slice
  222 227 103.7 147.3 3130 11.7 R 10 76 6.1 fade
  224 226 98 144.7 3212 2.3 R 11.7 103 6.9 fade
  221 226 103.5 146.7 3990 23 R 9.1 76 6.1 slice
                       
Average 238.6 248.6 101.6 149.9 2697     12.1 87.9 6.26  
                       
Top 5 255.0 267.8 100.9 151.1 2327     11.8 87.6 6.4  

 

With the 10 worst flubbed shots removed, here is data from a recent swing analysis (sorted by total carry). I've been still working on the key points from my Evolvr lessons, hopefully starting up those again in the off-season.  Hmmm, 10 our 52 shots were bad- I need to improve consistency right off the bat. Let's see at that rate, on 14 drives in a round, that's 3 of them that would be flubbed.

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
First 18-hole round after purchasing the new driver based on the fitting above. Hit 7/12 fairways with it. Averaged 243yds. Was hoping for a little more distance, but I mishit on 17 and 18 off the bottom of the face to bring the average down. Overall, I'm happy with my game today and continued work on the basics will pay off.

http://www.ushandicap.com/golf-handicap/scores_detail.asp?scoreID=113662820

Sandy greens today. So sandy you could see the track after each putt. Here's the last 15 feet of my 30-foot birdie putt on 16. As soon as it was struck, we all knew it was tracking. Dead center pretty much. Pretty cool.
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