Should I bend my MP60s 1 degree weak?

[jeff]

I have a set of Mizuno MP60s on the way and the PW is 47, 9I is 43. I also play with a 52, 56, 60 Cleveland CG10. So, I was considering bending the irons 1 degree weak so I could have 60, 56, 52, 48, 44, etc.

Could this affect the clubs negatively in any way? i know the bounce would increase, how much will I notice this? I take a decent divot. What about offset and what would changing it do?

[TourSpoon]

I have a set of Mizuno MP60s on the way and the PW is 47, 9I is 43. I also play with a 52, 56, 60 Cleveland CG10. So, I was considering bending the irons 1 degree weak so I could have 60, 56, 52, 48, 44, etc.

You are fine...I just did the same thing with my 735 cms so I could have 60-54-48. With one degree you are not risking anything to get the lofts to your specs.

[allin]

I have a set of Mizuno MP60s on the way and the PW is 47, 9I is 43. I also play with a 52, 56, 60 Cleveland CG10. So, I was considering bending the irons 1 degree weak so I could have 60, 56, 52, 48, 44, etc.

I would wait until you have actually played with your new clubs and checked your yardage gaps, the variations in head design, shafts weighting etc might result in your not needing to make a change.

[Shindig]

How tough is it to get the lofts changed? I ask because I'm getting MP-57s soon, and they have the same lofts (47PW, 43 9I) and I was thinking of getting 6-P one degree weak so I'd have consistent 4-degree gaps from my 3H through my SW (I plan to swap out the current 58 for the 56).

Should I get the lofts change before I order or should I try them out and change them after the fact? Does the forged factor make a difference?

[allin]

Same answer as previous question, wait to see what your gaps are. It is easy to change lofts, even easier on forged clubs.

[i-Guy]

I would wait until you have actually played with your new clubs and checked your yardage gaps, the variations in head design, shafts weighting etc might result in your not needing to make a change.

Good advice but even if you have a gap it would be cheaper to bend your 3 wedges to 51, 55 and 59 then bending your whole set of irons...that is what I am thinking about doing as well to tighen my gap...

[TourSpoon]

How tough is it to get the lofts changed? I ask because I'm getting MP-57s soon, and they have the same lofts (47PW, 43 9I) and I was thinking of getting 6-P one degree weak so I'd have consistent 4-degree gaps from my 3H through my SW (I plan to swap out the current 58 for the 56).

Shin, it is a piece of cake to bend these. The forged makes it even easier. I took mine to my club guy and we did lie/loft in less than 30 minutes for each club. I always check the clubs because I have never seen a set come in right on the money (when my Dad retired he worked in the golf shop and I used to do minor club repair for the shop). I played mine after doing the lie and then had the loft readjusted. Total price $32.00 (4 per club).

[JSC924]

Jeff, I used to play a set of Titleist DCI 962 irons ( http://www.titleist.com/historical_c...ails.asp?id=18 ) which is roughly 1 degree weaker than my mp 32s and the yardage difference is barely noticeable, less than 3 yard difference. How I feel that day has a larger effect on my yardeges than the clubs. I wouldn't bother changing the lofts on an entire set of irons especially if you have already purchased it. But then again, TourSpoon is right that not all sets come in perfect specs as listed.

As to the answer to your question, they're forged clubs so it would have no adverse effects on the materials of the clubs but it might increase the bounce angle which might slightly changed the feel when the club strikes the ground and the size of the divot you take.

[Avid Golfer]

I have a set of Mizuno MP60s on the way and the PW is 47, 9I is 43. I also play with a 52, 56, 60 Cleveland CG10. So, I was considering bending the irons 1 degree weak so I could have 60, 56, 52, 48, 44, etc.

One degree of loft is going to make very little difference. Your profile lists you as an 18 handicapper, and that makes it even less likely that you'll notice a difference. I worked for a time in a golf shop and we had numerous times where people came in that couldn't break 110 and they said their instructors told (or they read in a magazine) that they should bend the loft of their clubs by 1 or 2 degrees. If they were really dead set on it we would do it, but it didn't make one bit of difference to the scores they shot. I strongly believe their money would have been better spent on a better instructor.

Changing the loft will change the way the leading edge and bounce interact with the turf. (Not by much, but it will still change it). Many of the companies spent lots of time in research and development finding optimal lofts and bounces on their clubs. (They usually have reasons, such as matching loft to center of gravity to produce a particular launch condition, when they determine the stats for their clubs). Offset is something is a hardset part of the club that can't be altered. Changing loft and lie would not have any effect on offset. My recommendation is save your money as its not worth it to change the loft on your clubs, especially by 1 degree.

[TourSpoon]

My recommendation is save your money as its not worth it to change the loft on your clubs, especially by 1 degree.

In my case it was worth the money because I needed to have the lie done anyway. That and I am so anal that I need perfect spacing in my twisted little mind. Has it helped? Well I don't think about it and my club choice has been right on, so yes.

[jeff]

One degree of loft is going to make very little difference. Your profile lists you as an 18 handicapper, and that makes it even less likely that you'll notice a difference. I worked for a time in a golf shop and we had numerous times where people came in that couldn't break 110 and they said their instructors told (or they read in a magazine) that they should bend the loft of their clubs by 1 or 2 degrees. If they were really dead set on it we would do it, but it didn't make one bit of difference to the scores they shot. I strongly believe their money would have been better spent on a better instructor.

I used to have a 56, 50, 45 and since i hit it a decent way there were some big gaps. Full swings, maybe, 95, 125, 145 with those clubs. Also, my 18 is from slicing drives OB and 3 putts really. I'm actually decent at wedge, short iron distance control.

So, it seems like I'd be able to tell a 47 from 48 PW. Wouldn't it be about 3-4 yards? Thats my main issue. I realize past 8I or so it would be insignificant. I was more concerned the playability would be affected from the change in bounce and I didn't want to screw up a nice set of MP60s.

[andre112]

One degree of loft is going to make very little difference. Your profile lists you as an 18 handicapper, and that makes it even less likely that you'll notice a difference. I worked for a time in a golf shop and we had numerous times where people came in that couldn't break 110 and they said their instructors told (or they read in a magazine) that they should bend the loft of their clubs by 1 or 2 degrees. If they were really dead set on it we would do it, but it didn't make one bit of difference to the scores they shot. I strongly believe their money would have been better spent on a better instructor.

What if it's lie angle by 1 degree in the wedges? Would you recommand changing it or not?

[TourSpoon]

What if it's lie angle by 1 degree in the wedges? Would you recommand changing it or not?

Yes because one degree on the lie could be the difference of your club hitting through impact on the toe or more towards the middle of the sole (or any variation of 1/2" to 1").

[tradewind_golfer]

You should just have one or two of the clubs bent first to see if you like it.

I had my T-zoid pros bent 2* strong and 2* flat (only 6-9 irons) and it makes a BIG difference.

My first reaction to having them bent strong was that the feeling at impact was much different--felt a bit "thin." I don't know about distance increase actually--sometimes the higher ball flight actually makes the irons fly a bit farther.

I also have a set of MP-14's that are 2* weaker than today's standards. They actually fill my gaps between SW (90 yrds) up to 5 iron (165ish) quite nicely. I now use the MP-14's for 4-9 iron and the bent T-zoids are sleeping in the closet.

Bending the lie was great as I'm a midget by "haole" standards and think it makes a big difference in SW-7 iron.

But bending the loft has a big impact on bounce--if you like the way your irons "bounce" when you strike the ball well, you shouldn't mess with the lofts.

Good hunting!

[mn723]

Why would you want to mess around with a new set of sweet irons??? Play with them first and see if you need to fill any yardage gaps (you wont) before you start bending new irons. No way you're gonna notice a difference in 1 degree, unless your name is Tiger Woods.